SCHWALD, Johann Bernhard

Notes:

Per Hanno: Johann Bernhard Schwald *1713 - could that be Bernhard Schwald who
married 1752 at Wies Rosina Ruf from Demberg? Bernhard was "Buerger in
Wies" and lived in Neuenweg.

Relatives Fabian Trurnit
Entries: 19316 Updated: Tue Apr 9 01:11:12 2002
Contact: Hanno Trurnit
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ID: I293
Name: Bernhard SCHWALD
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1730 in Wies?
Occupation: Buerger in Wies, wohnhaft in Neuenweg
Change Date: 18 JAN 2002

Father: Michael SCHWALD b: 1685 in Neuenweg
Mother: Anna KNEUSSLEIN b: 1682 in Gersbach

Marriage 1 Rosina RUF b: ABT 1735 in Demberg
Married: 14 MAR 1752 in Wies
Children
Martin SCHWALD b: MAR 1764 in Wies
Bernhard SCHWALD b: ABT 1755 in Wies?
Personal Information:
Occupation:Buerger in Wies, wohnhaft in Neuenweg

familysearch.org

Johann Bernhard Schwald
Birth: 31 AUG 1713 Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden

Father: Michael Schwald Family
Mother: Anna Knussli
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available.

Johann married Living [Group Sheet]

1. SCHWALD, Bernhard was born Abt 1755.
2. SCHWALD, Martin was born Mar 1764, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 4 Apr 1813, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.

Notes:

From: dgudeman
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 10:22 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Michel Schwald

The information on the Michel Schwald family is found in LDS File: roll #1189745

Anna KNUSSLEIN per Hanno in his revised version: Incorrect other previous names per Christof
see Excel lineage.xls Revised Schwald Christof worksheet

From: dgudeman
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:11 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Michel Schwald

Your supposition was correct. The father of the Johann Georg who married Maria Lenzin in 1738 was from Gersbach, not Grenzach. It was spelled with "p" rather than "b" which looked very much like a "z". It is the influence of the German-Swiss on the South Black Forest dialect. It is not uncommon for bach to be spelled as pach in Switzerland, but quite uncommon in the South Black Forest, and even less common in the rest of Germany. My great -grandmother, Anna Maria Minger, was born in Limpach, Switerzerland. In some ways the South Black Forest is more Swiss than German, with Basel being the dominant city. When people from the South Black Forest travel to other parts of Germany they are often thought to be from Switzerland because of their dialect.

Michel Schwald married Anna (a name that looks something like Kuensslerin) of Gersbach on December 8, 1711, in Gersbach. The father of Michel was Bernhard (?) Schwald of, what appears to be, Kuernberg. The father of Anna was Hans (?) of Gersbach.

Michel's and Anna's children were:

1. Katharina, born in Gersbach in September, 1712.
2. Johann Bernhard (?), born in Gersbach on August 31, 1713.
3. Hanss Jerg, born in Gersbach on April 24, 1715.
4. Martin, born in Gersbach August 3, 1716.
5. Anna, born in Gersbach on January 23, 1719.
6. Andreas, born in Gersbach on July 17, 1720.
7. Catharina, born in Gersbach. ( I failed to get the date of birth but I believe it was in 1723.)
8. Johann Jacob, born in Gersbach January 17, 1726.

From: christof schwald
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 8:56 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Re: Michel Schwald

Hi Roderick,
Michael Schwald's Mothers name was Anna Kneusslin, born 27.3.1682,
+ 4.9.1759
M. Schwald's father was Bernhardt Schwald from Neuenweg, born 8.8.1655,
+ ?, his mother Catharina Bleickner, b.7.5.1656
Bernhardt's father was Jacob Schwald, the eldest Schwald we know, born in Neuenweg in1614, mrried with Maria Kiefer, b. 1613
They had 12 children.
Later more.
Christof

From: dave gudeman
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:00 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Janet Regan
Subject: Michael Schwald/Anna Knuesslerin family

Michael Schwald was born in Neuenweg on July 25,1685, to Bernhard Schwald and Katharina Blaitnerin.
He married Anna Knuesslerin of Gersbach in Gersbach on December 8, 1711 (he was shown as Michel). Their children were:

1. Katharina b.In September 1712 in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
2. Johann Bernhard b. August 21, 1713, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
3. Hanss Jerg b. April 24, 1715 in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
4. Martin b. August 3, 1716, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
5. Anna b. January 23, 1719, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
6. Andreas b. July 17, 1720, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
7. Catharina b. in 1723 in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
8. Johann Jacob January 17, 1726, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)

Notes: I believe that you should update your website to incorporate this additional information The name Blaitnerin was spelled every which way--Bleutnerin, Blautnerin, etc., but it was almost surely not Bleickner. I suggest that you use the Blaitnerin spelling, the name shown quite clearly on Michael's birth record 1685.
The name Knuesslerin is an usual name and is quite difficult to read. However, on the birth record of Katharina in 1712 it is clearly spelled Knuesslerin.

1. Maria b. September 28, 1678, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin. Maria died on May 5, 1679.
2. Verena b. January 26, 1680, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin
3 Jacobus b. August 19, 1681, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin
4. Bernhardt b. April 22, 1683, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwaldt (yes, Bernhardt Schwaldt) and Catharina Bleictnerin. Bernhardt died on May 1, 1694
5. Michael b. July 25, 1685, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Katharina Blaitnerin
6. Johannes b. April 8, 1687, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwald and Catharina Bleitnerin. Johannes died on April 27, 1687
7.Johannes b. July 1, 1688, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwaldt and Catharina Bleitnerin
8. Martin b. January 23, 1690, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwald and Catharina Bleitnerin

Birth:
BIRTHPLACE:
- AKA Kürnberg, Schopfheim, Lörrach, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

Christened:
BAPTISM PLACE:
- AKA Bürchau, Baden (Baden-Württemberg), Preußen (Germany) (ancestry.com
- AKA Bürchau, Lörrach, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

Buried:
BURIAL PLACE:
- AKA Haslach, Baden (Baden-Württemberg), Preußen (Germany) (ancestry.com)
- AKA Gersbach (A. Schopfheim), Schopfheim (ancestry.com)

Died:
DEATH PLACE:
- AKA Gersbach, Lörrach, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

Michael married KNUESSLERIN, Anna (Kneusslin) 8 Dec 1711, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Anna (daughter of Living and Living) was born 27 Mar 1682, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 4 Sep 1759, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Anna KNEUSSLEIN per Hanno

Anna Kneusslin per Christof

Anna Kuensslerin per David Gudeman

From: dave gudeman
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:00 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Janet Regan
Subject: Michael Schwald/Anna Knuesslerin family

Michael Schwald was born in Neuenweg on July 25,1685, to Bernhard Schwald and Katharina Blaitnerin.
He married Anna Knuesslerin of Gersbach in Gersbach on December 8, 1711 (he was shown as Michel). Their children were:

1. Katharina b.In September 1712 in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
2. Johann Bernhard b. August 21, 1713, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
3. Hanss Jerg b. April 24, 1715 in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
4. Martin b. August 3, 1716, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
5. Anna b. January 23, 1719, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
6. Andreas b. July 17, 1720, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
7. Catharina b. in 1723 in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)
8. Johann Jacob January 17, 1726, in Gersbach (The father was shown as Michel.)

Notes: I believe that you should update your website to incorporate this additional information The name Blaitnerin was spelled every which way--Bleutnerin, Blautnerin, etc., but it was almost surely not Bleickner. I suggest that you use the Blaitnerin spelling, the name shown quite clearly on Michael's birth record 1685.
The name Knuesslerin is an usual name and is quite difficult to read. However, on the birth record of Katharina in 1712 it is clearly spelled Knuesslerin.

Notes:

http://www.familysearch.org
MICHEL SCHWALD
Spouse: ANNA KNEUSSLIN Family
Marriage: 08 DEC 1711 Evangelisch, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ

M936671 1665 - 1811 1189745 Film NONE

Married:
MARRIAGE PLACE:
- AKA Gersbach (A. Schopfheim), Schopfheim (ancestry.com)
- AKA Gersbach, Lörrach, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

Notes:

Per Hanno:

Bernhardt Schwald *8.8.1655 at Neuenweg, married 1677 Catharina Bleitner
(Bleickner/Pleickner)*1656 Neuenweg

From: "dave gudeman"
Cc: "Janet Schwald"
Subject: Bernhard Schwald/Katharina Blaitnerin family
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:03:44 -0500

Bernhard (not Bernhardt) Schwald was born in Neuenweg in 1655 to Jacob Schwald and Maria Kiefferin. He married Katharina Blaitnerin in about 1677, presumably in Neuenweg (marriage record not found). Their chuldren were:

1. Maria b. September 28, 1678, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin. Maria died on May 5, 1679.
2. Verena b. January 26, 1680, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin
3 Jacobus b. August 19, 1681, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin
4. Bernhardt b. April 22, 1683, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwaldt (yes, Bernhardt Schwaldt) and Catharina Bleictnerin. Bernhardt died on May 1, 1694
5. Michael b. July 25, 1685, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Katharina Blaitnerin
6. Johannes b. April 8, 1687, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwald and Catharina Bleitnerin. Johannes died on April 27, 1687
7.Johannes b. July 1, 1688, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwaldt and Catharina Bleitnerin
8. Martin b. January 23, 1690, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwald and Catharina Bleitnerin

Name:
NAME VARIATION:
- Bernhard SCHWALDS; dau. Maria's Death record (ancestry.com)
- Bernhardt SCHWALD; son Martin's Bap. record (ancestry.com)
- Bernhardt SCHWALDT
- Bernhards SCHWALDS; dau. Verena's Marr. record (ancestry.com)

Bernhard married BLEICKNER, Catharina (Blaitnerin Bleutnerin) 28 Aug 1677, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Catharina (daughter of BLEICKNER, Jacob (Blaitnerin Bleutnerin) and ZEH, Verena) was born 7 May 1656, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Roderick Schwald"
Cc: "Janet Schwald"
Subject: Bernhard Schwald/Katharina Blaitnerin family
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:03:44 -0500

Bernhard (not Bernhardt) Schwald was born in Neuenweg in 1655 to Jacob Schwald and Maria Kiefferin. He married Katharina Blaitnerin in about 1677, presumably in Neuenweg (marriage record not found). Their chuldren were:

1. Maria b. September 28, 1678, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin. Maria died on May 5, 1679.
2. Verena b. January 26, 1680, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin
3 Jacobus b. August 19, 1681, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Catharina Bleutnerin
4. Bernhardt b. April 22, 1683, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwaldt (yes, Bernhardt Schwaldt) and Catharina Bleictnerin. Bernhardt died on May 1, 1694
5. Michael b. July 25, 1685, in Neuenweg to Bernhard Schwald and Katharina Blaitnerin
6. Johannes b. April 8, 1687, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwald and Catharina Bleitnerin. Johannes died on April 27, 1687
7.Johannes b. July 1, 1688, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwaldt and Catharina Bleitnerin
8. Martin b. January 23, 1690, in Neuenweg to Bernhardt Schwald and Catharina Bleitnerin

Name:
NAME VARIATIONS:
- Catharina BLEUTNERIN; dau. Verena's Bap. record (ancestry.com)
- Katharinen BLAITNERINN; son Michael's Bap. record (ancestry.com)
- Catharina BLEICKNERIN; son Mathis (1698) Bap. record (ancestry.com)
- Catharina BLEIKNERIN; son Martin's Bap. record (ancestry.com)
- Catharina BlÄIKNER; son Bernhard's Death record (ancestry.com)
- Catharina Bleicktnerin; dau. Maria's (1693) Bap. record (ancestry.com

Living — Living. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

per LDS Files:

Jakob SCHWALDT
Sex: M

Marriage(s):
Spouse: Anna KIEFERIN
Marriage: Abt. 1647
Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden-Wuerttembe, Preussen

Name:
NAME VARIATIONS:
- Jacob SCHWALDEN; son Michael's Marr. record

Jakob married KIEFER, Maria Abt 1642, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria was born Abt 1616, Germany; died 7 Jan 1677, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

per LDS Files:

Jakob SCHWALDT
Sex: M

Marriage(s):
Spouse: Anna KIEFERIN
Marriage: Abt. 1647
Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden-Wuerttembe, Preussen

Name:
NAME VARIATIONS:
- Maria KIEFFERIN; son Hans' Bap. record (ancestry.com)
- Maria KUFFER; dau. Magdalena's Birth record (ancestry.com)
- Maria KIEFFER; son Johannes/ Birth record (ancestry.com)
- Maria KÃœRFFERIN; dau. Maria's (1648) Bap. record (ancestry.com)

Other Events:

• Occupation: Gerichter

Jacob married ZEH, Verena 24 Nov 1651, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Verena was born , Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died , Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]