GUDEMANN, Johann Jacob

Notes:

Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 164

David Gudeman's Family Gedcom
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JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN (son of JACOB ADAM G?DEMANN and Anna Barbara Kropfin) was born February 25, 1784 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, and died December 18, 1853 in Vogelbach, Baden, Germany. He married (1) Maria Barbara Oswaldin on June 02, 1807 in Vogelbach, Baden, Germany (1st marriage), daughter of Simon Oswald and Margaretha Motschen. He married (2) Anna Maria Meyerin on August 14, 1824 in Vogelbach, Baden, Germany (2nd marriage).

Notes for JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN:
Johann Jacob G?demann moved from Marzell to Vogelbach, the birth place of his father, in 1807 to marry Maria Barbara Oswaldin. This time our ancestors lived in Vogelbach from 1807 to 1853, when Johann Jacob die there

Matthias, the twin son born in 1824, died four days after birth, and his mother died three days later. Both twins were immediately baptized at home because they were too weak to be carried to the church. The twin daughter, Anna Barbara, lived and married and had several children.

The children's great-grandmother was Anna Maria Oswaldin and their mother was Maria Barbara Oswaldin. To find a common paternal ancestor, if any, it would be necessary to go back in time before records were kept. Anna Maria was the daughter of Hans Oswald of Malsburg, and Maria Barbara was the daughter of Simon Oswald of Wambach/Vogelbach.

After Johann Jacob's first wife died in March 1824, it took him less than five months to marry a 29 year old local bride. He was 40 years old with seven children, ranging in ages from five months to sixteen years, at the of the marriage.

Johann Jacob G?demann and his second wife, Anna Maria Meyerin, were third cousins, their common ancestor being Johann G?demann (1643) of Endenburg/Kaltenbach. Johann Jacob was a descendant of Jacob (1678), and Anna Maria was a descendant of Jacobs's brother Johannes (1694).

Johann Jacob was a shoe maker and a farmer.

Johann Jacob and his second wife, Anna Maria Meyer, were third cousins, both being descendants of Johann G?demann and Maria Strohmeyer.


More About JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN:
Date born 2: February 25, 1784
Burial: Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.

More About JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN and Maria Barbara Oswaldin:
Marriage: June 02, 1807, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany (1st marriage).

More About JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN and Anna Maria Meyerin:
Marriage: August 14, 1824, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany (2nd marriage).

Children of JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN and Maria Barbara Oswaldin are:
+Johann Jacob G?demann, b. April 02, 1808, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. January 26, 1859, L?tschenbach, Baden, Germany.
+Friedrich Wilhelm Simon G?demann, b. August 19, 1809, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. October 29, 1896, Marzell, Baden, Germany.
+Simon G?demann, b. November 30, 1811, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. June 30, 1895, Schopfheim, Baden, Germany.
Johannes G?demann, b. June 18, 1814, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. March 13, 1864, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.
+FRITZ G?DEMANN, b. September 24, 1819, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. April 26, 1890, Near Roanoke, Woodford County, Illinois.
+David G?demann, b. February 25, 1822, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. September 09, 1905, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.
Matthias G?demann, b. March 10, 1824, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. March 14, 1824, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.
+Anna Barbara G?demann, b. March 10, 1824, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d., Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN and Anna Maria Meyerin are:
Matthias G?demann, b. March 02, 1826, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. July 17, 1849, Heidelburg, Germany.
Johann Georg G?demann, b. November 29, 1828, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.
+Anna Maria G?demann, b. October 26, 1830, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d., Sitzenkirch, Baden, Germany (?).
+Anna Catharina G?demann, b. December 18, 1832, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, d. February 03, 1907, Kandern, Baden, Germany.
Maria Katharina G?demann, b. September 03, 1835, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.

Johann married OSWALD, Maria Barbara 2 Jun 1807, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria (daughter of OSWALD, Simon and MOTSCH, Margaretha (Motschen)) was born 14 Sep 1785, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 17 Mar 1824, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

1. GUDEMANN, Johann Jacob was born 2 Apr 1808.
2. GUDEMANN, Friedrich Wilhelm Simon was born 19 Aug 1809.
3. GUDEMANN, Simon was born 30 Nov 1811, Germany.
4. GUDEMANN, Johannes was born 18 Jun 1814, Germany.
5. GUDEMANN, Fritz was born 24 Sep 1819.

Notes:

Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 164
David Gudeman's family website

JACOB ADAM GUDEMANN (son of MATTHIAS GUDEMANN and Anna Maria Oswaldin) was born November 25, 1753 in Vogelbach, Baden, Germany, and died April 19, 1818 in Marzell, Baden, Germany. He married Anna Barbara Kropfin on June 05, 1782 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, daughter of Hans Kropfin and Maria Heizin.

Notes for JACOB ADAM GUDEMANN:
Jacob Adam moved from Vogelbach to Marzell, two miles to the north, about 1782 when he married Anna Barbara Krophin, a widow of Marzell. He was 28 years old and she was 43 years old.

Their first son, Johann Jacob, born two months after the marriage, died when he was five months old. Their second son, also named Johann Jacob and our ancestor, was born fourteen months later. We almost didn't make it. He was born when his mother, Anna Barbara, was over 45 years old. We can imagine that he may not have been a very healthy child. However, healthy or not at birth, we must conclude that he developed into a healthy, virile adult when we find that he had thirteen children by two wives, including my great-grandfather Fritz, and that he died at the of 69.

When they married, Anna Barbara was a widow with three children (a fourth had died at the age of six) , the youngest being seven years old. She had married Friedrich Leisinger of Wies, Baden, Germany, in 1755 when he was 32 years old and she was only sixteen and one-half years old. Strangely, their first child was not born until five years later. Friedrich Leisinger died in 1779 at the age of 55, and Jacob Adam married the widow three years later.

Our ancestors lived in Marzell from about 1782, when Jacob Adam moved from Vogelbach to Marzell and married anna Barbara Kropfin, to 1818, when he died there.

More About JACOB ADAM GUDEMANN:
Burial: Marzell, Baden, Germany.

More About JACOB ADAM GUDEMANN and Anna Barbara Kropfin:
Marriage: June 05, 1782, Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of JACOB ADAM GUDEMANN and Anna Barbara Kropfin are:
Johann Jacob Gudemann, b. August 03, 1782, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. December 29, 1782, Marzell, Baden, Germany.
+JOHANN JACOB GUDEMANN, b. February 25, 1784, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. December 18, 1853, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.

Jacob married KROPF, Anna "Barbara" 5 Jun 1782, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Anna (daughter of KROPF, Hans and HEIZ, Maria (Hagin)) was born 17 Dec 1738, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 22 Nov 1806, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 164
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/u/d/David-J-Gudeman-KS/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0123.html
Anna Barbara Kropfin (daughter of Hans Kropfin and Maria Heizin) was born December 17, 1738 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, and died November 22, 1806 in Marzell, Baden, Germany. She married (1) Friedrich Leisinger on August 04, 1755 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, son of Bartthlin Leisinger and Barbara Str?bbin. She married (2) JACOB ADAM G?DEMANN on June 05, 1782 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, son of MATTHIAS G?DEMANN and Anna Maria Oswaldin.

More About Anna Barbara Kropfin:
Burial: Marzell, Baden, Germany.

More About Anna Barbara Kropfin and Friedrich Leisinger:
Marriage: August 04, 1755, Marzell, Baden, Germany.

More About Anna Barbara Kropfin and JACOB ADAM G?DEMANN:
Marriage: June 05, 1782, Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of Anna Barbara Kropfin and Friedrich Leisinger are:
Anna Maria Leisinger, b. November 22, 1760, Marzell, Baden, Germany.
Johannes Leisinger, b. April 20, 1765, Marzell, Baden, Germany.
Freidrich Leisinger, b. November 04, 1769, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. February 05, 1776, Marzell, Baden, Germany.
Anna Barbara Leisinger, b. June 02, 1775, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. July 01, 1822, Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of Anna Barbara Kropfin and JACOB ADAM G?DEMANN are:
Johann Jacob G?demann, b. August 03, 1782, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. December 29, 1782, Marzell, Baden, Germany.
+JOHANN JACOB G?DEMANN, b. February 25, 1784, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. December 18, 1853, Vogelbach, Baden, Germany.

Notes:

Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 164

Matthias — Living. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 239
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Hans Kropfin was born February 18, 1710 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, and died April 24, 1784 in Marzell, Baden, Germany. He married Maria Heizin.

More About Hans Kropfin:
Burial: Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of Hans Kropfin and Maria Heizin are:
+Anna Barbara Kropfin, b. December 17, 1738, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. November 22, 1806, Marzell, Baden, Germany

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Hans — HEIZ, Maria (Hagin). Maria (daughter of Living and BRUNNER, Maria) was born 10 Mar 1713; died 12 Feb 1783, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 239
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Hans Kropfin was born February 18, 1710 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, and died April 24, 1784 in Marzell, Baden, Germany. He married Maria Heizin.

More About Hans Kropfin:
Burial: Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of Hans Kropfin and Maria Heizin are:
+Anna Barbara Kropfin, b. December 17, 1738, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. November 22, 1806, Marzell, Baden, Germany

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/u/d/David-J-Gudeman-KS/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0174.html
Maria Heizin was born January 30, 1713 in Marzell, Baden, Germany, and died February 01, 1783 in Marzell, Baden, Germany. She married Hans Kropfin.

More About Maria Heizin:
Burial: Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Children of Maria Heizin and Hans Kropfin are:
+Anna Barbara Kropfin, b. December 17, 1738, Marzell, Baden, Germany, d. November 22, 1806, Marzell, Baden, Germany.

Notes:

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/u/d/David-J-Gudeman-KS/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0140.html

JOHANN G?DEMANN (son of BARTHOLOM?US G?DEMANN and Maria Gretherin) was born 1643 in Endenburg, Baden, Germany, and died February 17, 1699 in Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. He married Maria Strohmeyer on April 17, 1676 in Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany, daughter of Jacob Strohmeyer and Maria Pfunderin.

Notes for JOHANN G?DEMANN:
Johann moved from Endenburg to Kaltenbach, three and one-half miles to the north, and married Maria Strohmeyer of a prominent Kaltenbach family in1676.

In 1676, when Johann married Maria, the village name was spelled Kaltbach. The spelling was later changed to Kaltenbach.

When Maria was born in 1677, she was the first Guedemann to be born in the remote Kander River Valley ( the Kandertal) in the South Black Forest. From that time on all Guedemanns born in the valley were descendants of Johann Guedemann and Maria Strohmeyer. The Guedemann name still has a presence in the valley village of Marzell, Baden, Germany; and the Strohmeyer name is quite common in the valley to this day.

When Johann and his wife, Maria, died within eight days of each other in 1699, they left four children ages four to twenty years old, the eldest being our ancestor Jacob. When he married Margaretha Pfunderin, of nearby Luetschenbach, seven months later, we may surmise that the newlyweds cared for the three younger siblings.

More About JOHANN G?DEMANN:
Burial: Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.

More About JOHANN G?DEMANN and Maria Strohmeyer:
Marriage: April 17, 1676, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.

Jacob married PFUNDER, Margarethe 4 Sep 1699, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Margarethe was born 1680, Luetschenbach, Germany; died Aft 1707, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Living married BRUNNER, Maria Maria (daughter of BRUNNER, Hans and VOGT, Maria) was born 18 Jun 1679, Oberhaeusen, Germany; died 30 Jun 1721, Tegernau, Loerrach, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=27jul44&id=I7138
Name: Maria BRUNNER
Surname: Brunner
Given Name: Maria
Sex: F
Birth: 18 Jun 1679 in Oberh?user, L?rrach, Baden, Germany
Death: 30 Jun 1721 in Tegernau, L?rrach, Baden, Germany
_UID: 4C17140B75DBD41196064445535400008399
Change Date: 30 Sep 2002 at 19:25:07

Father: Hans BRUNNER b: ABT 1633 in Oberh?user, L?rrach, Baden, Germany
Mother: Maria VOGT b: ABT 1643 in Gresgen, L?rrach, Baden, Germany

Marriage 1 Hans HEITZ
Married: 2 May 1702 in Tegernau, L?rrach, Baden, Germany
Children
Johannes HEITZ b: 12 Feb 1705 in Oberh?user, L?rrach, Baden, Germany
Jacob HEITZ b: 11 Aug 1709 in Raich, L?rrach, Baden, Germany
Maria HEITZ b: 10 Mar 1713 in Raich, L?rrach, Baden, Germany