Bef 1814 -
Generation: 1
1. | SCHWALD, Anna Catharina was born Bef 3 Jul 1814, Maulburg, Germany (daughter of SCHWALD, Johann Jacob and Living). Notes:
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ANNA CATHARINA
Female
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 JUL 1814 Evangelisch, Maulburg, Loerrach, Baden
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Parents:
Father: JOHANN JACOB SCHWALD Family
Mother: ANNA CATHARINA HEID
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Generation: 2
2. | SCHWALD, Johann Jacob was born Between 19 and 21 Mar 1791, Wies, Wambach, Germany; was christened 21 Mar 1791, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of SCHWALD, Friedrich "Johann Friedrich" and OSSWALD, Maria). Notes:
Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 438
Johann married Living [Group Sheet]
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Generation: 3
4. | SCHWALD, Friedrich "Johann Friedrich" was born 24 May 1751, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of SCHWALD, Johann "Hanss Hannss Jerg" Georg and LENTZ, Maria); died 18 Jul 1814, Hasel, Gersbach, Germany. Other Events:
- Occupation: Vogtei in Vogelbach, Germany
Notes:
Per Christof: April 7, 2002 Telephone conversation with Rod
Roddo84: Brother of our Johann Georg
Roddo84: Now Jan
jaeare123: yes
Roddo84: Maria Oswald
Roddo84: born 28 nov 1751
Roddo84: in wies-wambach
Roddo84: near Fischenberg
Roddo84: they had a son
Roddo84: Johann Jacob Schwald
Roddo84: born
Roddo84: 19 mar 1791
Roddo84: in Wies-Wambach
Roddo84: he married
Roddo84: 21 april 1813
Roddo84: Anna Catharina Heid
Roddo84: she was from Maulburg
Per LDS Site:
Possible his wife:
FRIEDRICH SCHWALD
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: MARIA OSSWALD
Marriage: 13 Feb 1776
Evangelisch, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden
NOTE: LAST BORN SON...IS CHRISTOF'S ANCESTOR...CHRISTOF'S BRANCH STARTS HERE
Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 438
Friedrich married OSSWALD, Maria 17 Feb 1776, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria was born 28 Nov 1751, Wambach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
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5. | OSSWALD, Maria was born 28 Nov 1751, Wambach, Germany. Notes:
Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 438
Children:
- 2. SCHWALD, Johann Jacob was born Between 19 and 21 Mar 1791, Wies, Wambach, Germany; was christened 21 Mar 1791, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Michael was born Abt 1780; died 22 Oct 1814, Hasel, Gersbach, Germany.
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Generation: 4
8. | SCHWALD, Johann "Hanss Hannss Jerg" Georg was born 24 Apr 1715, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; was christened 26 Apr 1715, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of SCHWALD, Michael and KNUESSLERIN, Anna (Kneusslin)). Notes:
Per LDS site:
Johann Georg SCHWALD
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Maria LENZ
Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
-----Original Message-----
From: christof schwald
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:13 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Janet
Subject: Re: I am Back
Hi Roderick,
I'm glad to hear good news about your wife doing well and I have news for you:
Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald
He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in 1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we met first) and had eight children:
Magdalena * 1738 Schwand
Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752
Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742
Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line)
Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg
Maria * 1746 Fischenberg
Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg
Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line)
The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were:
Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach
married in 1711 in Gersbach
Anna Kneusslin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of Hans Kneusslin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach
The parents of Michael Schwald were:
Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ?
married 1677 in Neuenweg
Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner and Verena Zeh from Neuenweg
The parents of Bernhard Schwald were:
Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg
married 1643 in Neuenweg
Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg
They had twelve children!
I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be all Schwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church books before 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybody has a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have!
Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wich is about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in The high black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in the summertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people with many children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers. So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" went all summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even in the family of the farmer.
Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. May be he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an other festival.
Now you can complete your Stammbaum with 12 generations! Wish you a good work! Christof
From: dgudeman
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 3:49 PM
To: Roderick Schwald
Subject: Johann Georg Schwald -Maria Lenzin family
Per Christof:
Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald
He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in 1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we met first) and had eight children:
Magdalena * 1738 Schwand
Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752
Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742
Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line)
Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg
Maria * 1746 Fischenberg
Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg
Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line)
The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were:
Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach
married in 1711 in Gersbach
Anna Kneusslin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of Hans Kneusslin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach
The parents of Michael Schwald were:
Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ?
married 1677 in Neuenweg
Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner and Verena Zeh from Neuenweg
The parents of Bernhard Schwald were:
Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg
married 1643 in Neuenweg
Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg
They had twelve children!
I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be all Schwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church books before 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybody has a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have!
Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wich is about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in The high black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in the summertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people with many children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers. So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" went all summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even in the family of the farmer.
Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. May be he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an other festival.
per email:
Johann Georg Schwald of Grenzach married Maria Lenzin of Schwand in Wies on September 17, 1738. The father of Johann Georg was Michel Schwaldin of Grenzach (shown as Greszach) and an unnamed mother. The father of Maria was Michel Lenzin and an unnamed mother. The children of Johann Georg and Maria were:
1. Maria, born in Fischenberg on September 20, 1742. (The father was shown as Hans Jerg.)
2. Johann Georg, born in Fischenberg on September 10, 1743. (The father is shown as Hans Jerg.)
3. Johann Jacob, born in Fischenberg on January 11, 1744. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.)
4. Maria, born in Fischenberg on August 6, 1746. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.)
5. Margaretha, born in Fischenberg on February 20, 1748. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.)
6. Friedrich, born in Fischenberg on May, 24, 1750. (The father was shown as Hans Georg.)
All data are from roll #1189732.
I suspect that other children were born between 1738 and 1742 in, perhaps, Grenzach or Schwand. It was highly unusual for a couple to wait four years before having their first child, and it was even not at all uncommon for the bride to be pregnant at the time of the marriage.
What micro-film rolls have you ordered?
I have some reservations about Grenzach. It is spelled in an unusual way on the marriage record and it is a long way from Fischenberg and Schwand. Althoug there is no other name spelled even close to it, further research needs to verify it.
NOTE: LAST BORN SON...IS CHRISTOF'S ANCESTOR...CHRISTOF'S BRANCH STARTS HERE
Johann Georg SCHWALD
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Maria LENZ
Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type
M936741 1738-1833 1189732
Birth:
BIRTH DATE DISCREPANCIES:
- 29 Apr 1715; Bap. record (ancestry.com)
Name:
NAME VARIATIONS:
- Hanß [Hanss] Jerg SCHWALD; Bap. record (ancestry.com)
Johann married LENTZ, Maria 17 Sep 1738, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria was born Abt 1717, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]
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9. | LENTZ, Maria was born Abt 1717, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Notes:
Per LDS Site:
Johann Georg SCHWALD
Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Maria LENZ
Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
Possible her record??
Maria LENTZ (AFN: 104R-NRS) Pedigree
Sex: F Family
Event(s):
Birth: 28 Sep 1717
Sallneck, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
Parents:
Father: Frederich Aka Fritz LENTZ (AFN: 104R-PCH) Family
Mother: Anna TREFZER (AFN: 104R
Maria LENTZ (AFN: 104R-NRS) Pedigree
Sex: F
Submitter(s):
KAREN M. URICK Microfilm: NONE
109 WEST MAIN STREET
BOX 609
HART MI Submission: AF93-102752
USA 49420
Ortssippenbuch of Tegernau
Children:
- SCHWALD, Magdalena was born 16 Sep 1738, Schwand, Germany; died 28 Apr 1805, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Anna was born 1741, Schwand, Germany; died 1752.
- SCHWALD, Maria was born 20 Sep 1742, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 1742.
- SCHWALD, Johann "Hans" Georg was born 10 Sep 1743, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; was christened 11 Sep 1743, Obertegernau, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Johann Jacob was born 11 Jan 1744, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Maria was born 6 Aug 1746, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Margaretha was born 20 Feb 1749, Obertegernau, Germany.
- 4. SCHWALD, Friedrich "Johann Friedrich" was born 24 May 1751, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 18 Jul 1814, Hasel, Gersbach, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Barbara was born 5 Apr 1754, Obertegernau, Germany.
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