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SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friz"

SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friz"

Male 1772 - 1839  (67 years)

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  • Name SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friz"  
    Gender Male 
    Born 13 Sep 1772  Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died 19 Dec 1839  Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • See Fritz father's notes for source of birth/death dates
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      Friz SCHWALD
      Spouse: Anna Barbara HOMBERGER
      Marriage: 17 Feb 1801
      Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden

      Dates from Fred Wehrle

      David Gudeman's notes:
      The foregoing information was obtained from Mormon Micro-films 1189731, 1189732, and 1189733.
      It is true that you and Dieter Scfwald of Malsburg are related. However, information that Hanno sent me failed to make the connection. Dieter's lineage went back 4 generations and then it hit a snag by omitting generations # 5 and #6 and then jumping to generation #7. The confusion may have been caused by the fact that Gustav Schwald of generation #4 was illegitimate and was born as Gustav Homberger, not as Gustav Schwald. In the event that this confusion has not already been clarified, I submit the following:
      #4 Generation: Gustav Schwald (born as Gustav Homberger) was born in Wies on February 15, 1861, to Maria Barbara Homberger, a single woman. Gustav married Carolina Spohn in Wies on May 21, 1885. They had a son, Wilhelm, born in Wies on January 7, 1887. Carolina was born in Wies on October 3, 1860, to Wilhelm Spohn and Maria Katharina Graesslin.
      #5 Generation: Johann Georg Schwald was born in Wies on July 19, 1836, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Maria Flatt. Johann Georg married Maria Barbara Homberger in Wies on November 14, 1861. They had a son, Gustav, on February 15, 1861, out of wedlock. Maria Barbara was born in Wies on November 3, 1837, to Georg Friedrich Homberger and Anna Maria Schlageter(?).
      #6 Generation: Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald was born in Fischenberg on December 1, 1809, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger. Friedrich married Anna Maria Flatt in Wies on September 9, 1833. They had a son, Johann Georg, in Wies on July 19, 1836. Anna Maria Flatt was a widow of Johann Lenzin of Wies, who died on August 16, 1831.
      #7 Generation: Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald was born in Fischenberg on September 13, 1772, to Johann Georg Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner. Friedrich married Anna Barbara Homberger in Wies on February 17, 1801. They had a son, Friedrich,. in Fischenberg on December 1, 1809.

      This means that Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger are the common ancestors of you and Dieter.
      As it turns out, there were three missing generations rather than two, as stated in Hanno's E-mail.

      From: "dave gudeman"
      To: "Janet"
      Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
      Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500

      It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
      children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
      1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
      shown as Friedrich.)
      2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
      as Friz.)
      You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
      for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
      rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
      and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
      later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
      were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
      after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
      (Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
      website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
      did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
      It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
      and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
      fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
      It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
      Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
      not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
      Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
      Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
      up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
      because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
      quality.
    Person ID I00736  1. Schwald - WA-NY-OR-TX
    Last Modified 19 Oct 2008 

    Father SCHWALD, Johann "Hans" Georg,   b. 10 Sep 1743, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother WAGNER, Anna Maria,   b. 27 Feb 1745, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Oct 1799, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 54 years) 
    Family ID F0252  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family HOMBERGER, Anna Barbara,   b. 17 Jan 1778, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Feb 1852, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Married 17 Feb 1801  Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • http://www.familysearch.org
      FRIZ SCHWALD
      Spouse: ANNA BARBARA HOMBERGER Family
      Marriage: 17 FEB 1801 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
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      Messages:
      Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
      Source Information:
      Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ

      M936741 1738 - 1833 1189732
    Children 
     1. SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich",   b. 4 Mar 1798, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 May 1860, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years)
     2. SCHWALD, Anna Barbara,   b. 4 May 1800, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1862, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 61 years)
     3. SCHWALD, Anna Catharina,   b. 29 Apr 1802, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +4. SCHWALD, Anna Maria,   b. 28 Oct 1804, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +5. SCHWALD, Magdalena,   b. 14 Sep 1806, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +6. SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friederich",   b. 1 Dec 1809, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. SCHWALD, Johann Georg,   b. 4 Dec 1811, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +8. SCHWALD, Friedlin,   b. 28 May 1814, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +9. SCHWALD, Johann Jacob "John J.",   b. 7 Jan 1818, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +10. SCHWALD, Johannes,   b. 27 Jul 1822, Fischenberg, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Jan 1863, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 40 years)
    Last Modified 22 Mar 2009 
    Family ID F0251  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsBorn - 13 Sep 1772 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 17 Feb 1801 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 19 Dec 1839 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Link to Google Earth
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