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SCHWALD, Johann "Hanss Hannss Jerg" Georg

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  • Name SCHWALD, Johann "Hanss Hannss Jerg" Georg  
    • NAME VARIATIONS:
      - Hanß [Hanss] Jerg SCHWALD; Bap. record (ancestry.com)
    Gender Male 
    Born 24 Apr 1715  Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • BIRTH DATE DISCREPANCIES:
      - 29 Apr 1715; Bap. record (ancestry.com)
    Christened 26 Apr 1715  Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Notes 
    • Per LDS site:
      Johann Georg SCHWALD
      Sex: M

      Marriage(s):
      Spouse: Maria LENZ
      Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
      Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
      -----Original Message-----
      From: christof schwald
      Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:13 PM
      To: Roderick Schwald
      Cc: Janet
      Subject: Re: I am Back

      Hi Roderick,
      I'm glad to hear good news about your wife doing well and I have news for you:

      Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald
      He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in 1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we met first) and had eight children:
      Magdalena * 1738 Schwand
      Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752
      Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742
      Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line)
      Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg
      Maria * 1746 Fischenberg
      Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg
      Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line)

      The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were:
      Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach
      married in 1711 in Gersbach
      Anna Kneusslin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of Hans Kneusslin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach

      The parents of Michael Schwald were:
      Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ?
      married 1677 in Neuenweg
      Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner and Verena Zeh from Neuenweg

      The parents of Bernhard Schwald were:
      Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg
      married 1643 in Neuenweg
      Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg
      They had twelve children!

      I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be all Schwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church books before 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybody has a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have!

      Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wich is about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in The high black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in the summertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people with many children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers. So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" went all summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even in the family of the farmer.
      Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. May be he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an other festival.

      Now you can complete your Stammbaum with 12 generations! Wish you a good work! Christof

      From: dgudeman
      Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 3:49 PM
      To: Roderick Schwald
      Subject: Johann Georg Schwald -Maria Lenzin family
      Per Christof:
      Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald
      He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in 1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we met first) and had eight children:
      Magdalena * 1738 Schwand
      Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752
      Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742
      Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line)
      Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg
      Maria * 1746 Fischenberg
      Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg
      Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line)

      The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were:
      Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach
      married in 1711 in Gersbach
      Anna Kneusslin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of Hans Kneusslin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach

      The parents of Michael Schwald were:
      Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ?
      married 1677 in Neuenweg
      Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner and Verena Zeh from Neuenweg

      The parents of Bernhard Schwald were:
      Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg
      married 1643 in Neuenweg
      Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg
      They had twelve children!

      I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be all Schwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church books before 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybody has a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have!

      Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wich is about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in The high black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in the summertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people with many children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers. So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" went all summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even in the family of the farmer.
      Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. May be he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an other festival.

      per email:
      Johann Georg Schwald of Grenzach married Maria Lenzin of Schwand in Wies on September 17, 1738. The father of Johann Georg was Michel Schwaldin of Grenzach (shown as Greszach) and an unnamed mother. The father of Maria was Michel Lenzin and an unnamed mother. The children of Johann Georg and Maria were:

      1. Maria, born in Fischenberg on September 20, 1742. (The father was shown as Hans Jerg.)
      2. Johann Georg, born in Fischenberg on September 10, 1743. (The father is shown as Hans Jerg.)
      3. Johann Jacob, born in Fischenberg on January 11, 1744. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.)
      4. Maria, born in Fischenberg on August 6, 1746. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.)
      5. Margaretha, born in Fischenberg on February 20, 1748. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.)
      6. Friedrich, born in Fischenberg on May, 24, 1750. (The father was shown as Hans Georg.)

      All data are from roll #1189732.

      I suspect that other children were born between 1738 and 1742 in, perhaps, Grenzach or Schwand. It was highly unusual for a couple to wait four years before having their first child, and it was even not at all uncommon for the bride to be pregnant at the time of the marriage.

      What micro-film rolls have you ordered?

      I have some reservations about Grenzach. It is spelled in an unusual way on the marriage record and it is a long way from Fischenberg and Schwand. Althoug there is no other name spelled even close to it, further research needs to verify it.

      NOTE: LAST BORN SON...IS CHRISTOF'S ANCESTOR...CHRISTOF'S BRANCH STARTS HERE

      Johann Georg SCHWALD
      Sex: M

      Marriage(s):
      Spouse: Maria LENZ
      Marriage: 17 Sep 1738
      Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
      Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type
      M936741 1738-1833 1189732
    Person ID I00741  1. Schwald - WA-NY-OR-TX
    Last Modified 23 Mar 2016 

    Father SCHWALD, Michael,   b. 25 Jul 1685, Kurnberg, Schopfheim, Loerrach, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt. 18 Feb 1745, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years) 
    Mother KNUESSLERIN, Anna (Kneusslin),   b. 27 Mar 1682, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Sep 1759, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Family ID F0403  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family LENTZ, Maria,   b. Abt 1717, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 17 Sep 1738  Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Children 
    +1. SCHWALD, Magdalena,   b. 16 Sep 1738, Schwand, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Apr 1805, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
     2. SCHWALD, Anna,   b. 1741, Schwand, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1752  (Age 11 years)
     3. SCHWALD, Maria,   b. 20 Sep 1742, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1742
    +4. SCHWALD, Johann "Hans" Georg,   b. 10 Sep 1743, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. SCHWALD, Johann Jacob,   b. 11 Jan 1744, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. SCHWALD, Maria,   b. 6 Aug 1746, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. SCHWALD, Margaretha,   b. 20 Feb 1749, Obertegernau, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    +8. SCHWALD, Friedrich "Johann Friedrich",   b. 24 May 1751, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Jul 1814, Hasel, Gersbach, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 63 years)
     9. SCHWALD, Barbara,   b. 5 Apr 1754, Obertegernau, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified 8 May 2011 
    Family ID F0253  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 24 Apr 1715 - Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 26 Apr 1715 - Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 17 Sep 1738 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S329] AVS-Bap, Marr & Burials - 1502-1985 - Lutheran - Baden, Germany ancestry.com, (ancestry.com).
      BIRTH/BAPTISM
      Name: HANß JERG SCHWALD
      Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
      Birth Date: 29 Apr 1715 [ERROR birth date is AFTER Baptism date)
      Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1715
      Baptism Place: Haslach, Baden (Baden-Württemberg), Preußen (Germany)
      Father: Michel Schwald
      Mother: Anna Krußlein
      Parish as it Appears: Haslach
      Page Number: 78;79
      Custodian: Evangelische Landeskirche Baden (Germany)

    2. [S226] AVS-Births & Baptisms 1558-1898 - Germany familysearch.org, (familysearch.org), https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4L8-8L3.
      BAPTISM
      Name: HANSS JERG SCHWALD
      Gender: Male
      Birth Date: 24 Apr 1715
      Christening Date: 26 Apr 1715
      Christening Place: EVANGELISCH, GERSBACH, LOERRACH, BADEN
      Father's Name: Michel Schwald
      Mother's Name: Anna Knuessler

    3. [S098] Archives - www familysearch.org, (familysearch.org).
      International Genealogical Index Germany
      JOHANN GEORG SCHWALD
      Marriages:
      Spouse: MARIA LENZ
      Marriage: 17 SEP 1738
      Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden

      Messages:
      Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
      Source Information:
      Batch No.: M936741
      Dates: 1738 - 1833
      Source Call No.: 1189732