SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich"

Other Events:

• Occupation: Nagelschmidt/Blacksmith

Notes:

Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500

It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
shown as Friedrich.)
2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
as Friz.)
You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
(Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
quality.

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002

Johann Friedrich Schwald (1798), a son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger, married Anna Barbara Weiss (not Weis) in Fischenberg on July 28, 1825. She was a daughter of Martin Weiss. Anna Barbara Weiss died in Wies in 1827 when she was 25 years, 2 months, and 29 days old. At that time Johann Friedrich was shown as a citizen and bkacksmith (Nagelschmidt) in Wies. He married Barbara Doerflinger of Wies in Wies on December 3, 1828. She was a daughter of the deceased Mathias Doerflinger of Wies. Barbara was born in Wies on April 29, 1801. At the time of his second marriage, Johann Friedrich was still shown as a Nagelschmidt in Wies.

Johann married WEISS, Anna Barbara 28 Jul 1825, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Anna (daughter of Living) was born Abt 1802; died 1827, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Johann married DOERFLINGER, Barbara 3 Dec 1828, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Barbara (daughter of DOERFLINGER, Mathias) was born 29 Apr 1801, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]