1881 - 1882 (0 years)
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | KIEFER, Jakob Frederich "Fred" was born 16 Aug 1847, Luetschenbach, Germany; was christened 29 Aug 1847, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of KIEFER, Michael and SCHWEINLIN, Verena); died 3 Jan 1904, Lackawanna, Erie, New York; was buried Abt. 5 Jan 1904, Buffalo Cemetery, Cheektowaga, Erie, New York. Other Events:
- Census: 4 Jun 1900, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; w/wife & children
Notes:
Name:
NAME VARIATIONS:
- Fred KIEFER; 1900 Census
Buried:
BURIAL:
Buffalo Cemetery
Cheektowaga, Erie, New York
Jakob married SCHWALD, Maria "Mary" Catharina 2 Jun 1881, Haagen, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria (daughter of SCHWALD, Johannes and PFUNDER, Maria Magdalena) was born 20 Jul 1856, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 27 Jul 1856, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 2 Jul 1919, Buffalo, Erie, New York; was buried 3 Jul 1919, Buffalo Cemetery, Cheektowaga, Erie, New York. [Group Sheet]
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3. | SCHWALD, Maria "Mary" Catharina was born 20 Jul 1856, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 27 Jul 1856, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (daughter of SCHWALD, Johannes and PFUNDER, Maria Magdalena); died 2 Jul 1919, Buffalo, Erie, New York; was buried 3 Jul 1919, Buffalo Cemetery, Cheektowaga, Erie, New York. Other Events:
- Also Known As: Mary
- Immigration: 1882, USA
- Census: 4 Jun 1900, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; w/husband & children
- Census: 1 Jun 1905, West Seneca, Erie, New York; widowed, w/children & boarder
- Census: 25 Jun 1910, Lackawanna, Erie, New York; widowed, w/children
- Census: 1 Jun 1915, Lackawanna, Erie, New York; widowed, w/children
Notes:
Name:
NAME VARIATIONS:
- Mary KIEFER; 1900 Census
- Mary K. Kiefer; 1910 Census
Buried:
BURIAL:
Buffalo Cemetery
Cheektowaga, Erie, New York
Children:
- 1. KIEFER, Marie was born 13 Nov 1881, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 21 May 1882.
- KIEFER, Lydia was born 21 Mar 1883, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 22 Apr 1883.
- KIEFER, Alfred was born 7 Mar 1884, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 29 Mar 1955, Lackawanna, Erie, New York; was buried Abt. 31 Mar 1955, Lakeside Cemetery, Hamburg, Erie, New York.
- KIEFER, Elizabeth was born 11 Oct 1886, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 7 Oct 1975, Buffalo, Erie, New York.
- KIEFER, Phillipine (Philippine) was born 25 Jul 1889, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 10 Aug 1890.
- KIEFER, Charles Frederick (Sr.) was born 20 Jun 1891, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 19 Mar 1953, Erie County, New York; was buried Abt. 21 Mar 1953, Hamburg, Erie, New York.
- KIEFER, Ottilia "Tillie" Emily was born 4 Dec 1895, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 26 Jan 1935, Lackawanna, Erie, New York.
- KIEFER, Charlotte was born 10 Feb 1896, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died 17 Jul 1896, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania.
- KIEFER, Harry Amil was born 31 Jan 1897, Scranton, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; died Oct 1983, Pennsylvania.
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Generation: 3
4. | KIEFER, Michael was born 6 Jan 1825, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of KIEFER, Matthias and WEHRLE, Anna Maria (Wehrlin)); died 29 Apr 1896, Wiesental, Germany. Notes:
From:Roderick Schwald
To: Janet
Subject: Kiefer Info
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:02:18 -0500
FYI
I also asked Mark Stacy to give me his sources.
From www.familysearch.com
Jacob KIEFER
Sex: M
Birth: 16 Aug 1847
Muelheim, Germany
Parents:
Father: Michael KIEFER
Mother: Verna SCHWINDLIN
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 09:53:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Janet
Subject: Fwd: Re: Dieter Schwald
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:30:11 +0200
> From: Hanno Trurnit
> To: Janet
> Subject: Re: Dieter Schwald
>
> In the meantime I've got the ancestors of Jacob
> Friedrich Kiefer from
> Fred Wehrle:
> First Generation
>
> 1 Alfred Kiefer. * on 7 Mar 1883 in Scranton Pennsylvania.
> Alfred ? in Lackawanna
> New York on 29 Mar 1955; he was 72.
>
> On 10 Jan 1912 when Alfred was 28, he * Emma Lenger,
> in Scranton Pennsylvania.
>
> They had one child:
> i. Mildred (ca1913-1987)>
>
> Second Generation
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> 2 Jacob Friedrich Kiefer. * on 16 Aug 1847. Jacob
> Friedrich ? on 3 Jan
> 1904; he was 56.
>
> In 1881 when Jacob Friedrich was 33, he * Maria
> Catharina Schwald.
>
> They had the following children:
> i. Marie (1881-1882)
> ii. Lydia (1883-1883)
> 1 iii. Alfred (1883-1955)
> iv. Elizabeth (1886-1975)
> v. Philippine (1889-1890)
> vi. Charles Frederick (1891-1953)
> vii. Tillie (1895-1935)
> viii. Charlotte (1896-1896)
> ix. Harry Amil (1897-1983)
>
> 3 Maria Catharina Schwald. * on 20 Jul 1856 in
> Kaltenbach. Maria
> Catharina ? in Buffalo, Erie New York on 2 Jul 1919; she
> was 62.
>
> wanderte mit ihrem Mann 1882 nach USA aus, lebte als
> Mary Kiefer 1900 in
> Scranton Pennsylvania;
> Abkoemmlinge sind Mark und Robert Stacey>
>
> Third Generation
> ?????????????????????????????????????????????
>
> 4 Michael Kiefer. * on 6 Jan 1825 in Fischenberg.
> Michael ? in Zell im
> Wiesental on 29 Apr 1896; he was 71.
>
> On 8 Jul 1847 when Michael was 22, he * Verena
> Schweinlin, in Vogelbach.
>
> They had one child:
> 2 i. Jacob Friedrich (1847-1904)
>
> 5 Verena Schweinlin. * on 23 Sep 1825 in
> Luetschenbach. Verena ? in
> Haagen on 19 Oct 1902; she was 77.
>
> 14 Kinder
>
Michael married SCHWEINLIN, Verena 8 Jul 1847, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Verena (daughter of SCHWEINLIN, Johannes and WEHRLIN, Maria Katharina) was born 23 Sep 1825, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 19 Oct 1902, Haagen, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]
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5. | SCHWEINLIN, Verena was born 23 Sep 1825, Luetschenbach, Germany (daughter of SCHWEINLIN, Johannes and WEHRLIN, Maria Katharina); died 19 Oct 1902, Haagen, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Notes:
From: Roderick Schwald
To: Janet
Subject: Kiefer Info
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:02:18 -0500
FYI
I also asked Mark Stacy to give me his sources.
From www.familysearch.com
Jacob KIEFER
Birth: 16 Aug 1847
Muelheim, Germany
Parents:
Father: Michael KIEFER
Mother: Verna SCHWINDLIN
Notes:
www.familysearch.org
MICHAEL KIEFER
Spouse: VERENA SCHWEINLIN Family
Marriage: 08 JUL 1847 Evangelisch, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ
M934124 1816 - 1885 1189426
Children:
- 2. KIEFER, Jakob Frederich "Fred" was born 16 Aug 1847, Luetschenbach, Germany; was christened 29 Aug 1847, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 3 Jan 1904, Lackawanna, Erie, New York; was buried Abt. 5 Jan 1904, Buffalo Cemetery, Cheektowaga, Erie, New York.
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6. | SCHWALD, Johannes was born 27 Jul 1822, Fischenberg, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany; was christened 11 Aug 1822, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friz" and HOMBERGER, Anna Barbara); died 4 Jan 1863, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was buried 6 Jan 1863, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Other Events:
- Occupation: Bauer (Farmer)
- Occupation: Tagloehner (Day-laborer)
Johannes married PFUNDER, Maria Magdalena 10 Jul 1845, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. Maria (daughter of PFUNDER, Jacob Friedrich and LAEUGER, Anna Maria) was born 27 Jul 1823, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany ; died Aft 1872, Basel, Switzerland. [Group Sheet]
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7. | PFUNDER, Maria Magdalena was born 27 Jul 1823, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany (daughter of PFUNDER, Jacob Friedrich and LAEUGER, Anna Maria); died Aft 1872, Basel, Switzerland. Notes:
2 children born before marriage
Married:
MARRIAGE PLACE (July 10, 1845):
Per D.J. Gudeman:
- The marriage ceremony was performed in Kaltenbach. The little church in Vogelbach was custodian of the vital records of the citizens of Vogelbach, Malsburg, and Kaltenbach.
Children:
- SCHWALD, Johann Georg was born 30 Sep 1840, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany ; was christened 10 Jul 1845, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 27 Dec 1918, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; was buried 29 Dec 1918, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Maria Barbara was born 12 May 1844, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany ; was christened 10 Jul 1845, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 26 May 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was buried 28 May 1877, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Johannes was born 31 Dec 1847, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 16 Jan 1848, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died Aft. May 1902, Germany; was buried Aft. May 1902, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Anna Maria was born 29 Jan 1850, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 10 Feb 1850, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Johann Friedrich was born 22 May 1852, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 6 Jun 1852, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 24 May 1937, Wiechs, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; was buried Abt. 26 May 1937, Wiechs, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Johann Jakob was born 14 Apr 1854, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 30 Apr 1854, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 9 Jun 1872, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was buried 12 Jun 1872, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- 3. SCHWALD, Maria "Mary" Catharina was born 20 Jul 1856, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 27 Jul 1856, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 2 Jul 1919, Buffalo, Erie, New York; was buried 3 Jul 1919, Buffalo Cemetery, Cheektowaga, Erie, New York.
- SCHWALD, Katharina Magdalena was born 11 Sep 1858, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 26 Sep 1858, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 9 Jun 1861, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was buried 12 Jun 1861, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SWALD SCHWALD, Ernst Philipp "Philip" was born 4 Nov 1860, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 20 Nov 1860, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 20 Jun 1934, Utica, Oneida, New York; was buried 23 Jun 1934, New Forest Cemetery, Utica, Oneida, New York.
- SCHWALD, Ernst Friedrich "Ernest" Sr. was born 21 Aug 1863, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was christened 06 Sep 1863, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 20 Sep 1906, Buffalo, Erie, New York; was buried 22 Sep 1906, Lakeside Cemetery, Hamburg, Erie, New York.
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Generation: 4
8. | KIEFER, Matthias was born 20 Mar 1798, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of Living and Living); died 15 May 1858, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Other Events:
Notes:
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:30:11 +0200
> From: Hanno Trurnit
> To: Janet
> Subject: Re: Dieter Schwald
>
> In the meantime I've got the ancestors of Jacob
> Friedrich Kiefer from
> Fred Wehrle:
> 8 Matthias Kiefer. * on 20 Mar 1798 in Fischenberg.
> Matthias ? in
> Fischenberg on 15 May 1858; he was 60. Occupation:
> Bauer in Fischenberg.
>
> On 2 Oct 1823 when Matthias was 25, he * Anna Maria
> Wehrlin, in Wies.
>
> They had one child:
> 4 i. Michael (1825-1896)
>
> 9 Anna Maria Wehrlin. * on 21 Jul 1798 in
> Luetschenbach.
www.familysearch.org
Matthias Kiefer
Birth: 20 MAR 1798 Wies, Loerrach, Baden
Death: 15 MAY 1858 Wies, Loerrach, Baden
Burial:
Father: Fridolin Kiefer Family
Mother: Maria Barbara Kropf
Spouse: Anna Maria Wehrli Family
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.
Matthias married WEHRLE, Anna Maria (Wehrlin) 2 Oct 1823, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Anna (daughter of WEHRLIN, Michael and HOMBERGER, Maria Catharina) was born 21 Jul 1798, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1878. [Group Sheet]
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9. | WEHRLE, Anna Maria (Wehrlin) was born 21 Jul 1798, Luetschenbach, Germany (daughter of WEHRLIN, Michael and HOMBERGER, Maria Catharina); died 1878. Notes:
www.familysearch.org
MATTHIAS KIEFER
Spouse: ANNA MARIA WEHRLE Family
Marriage: 02 OCT 1823 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ
M936741 1738 - 1833 1189732
Children:
- 4. KIEFER, Michael was born 6 Jan 1825, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 29 Apr 1896, Wiesental, Germany.
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10. | SCHWEINLIN, Johannes was born 20 Apr 1785, Luetschenbach, Germany (son of SCHWEINLIN, Johannes and SCHULTHEISS, Anna); died 31 Dec 1855, Luetschenbach, Germany. Other Events:
Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle
> 10 Johann Schweinlin. * on 24 Apr 1785 in
> Luetschenbach. Johann ? in
> Luetschenbach on 31 Dec 1855; he was 70. Occupation:
> Bauer in
> Luetschenbach.
>
> Johann * Maria Katharina Wehrlin.
>
> They had one child:
> 5 i. Verena (1825-1902)
>
> 11 Maria Katharina Wehrlin. * on 5 Dec 1794 in
> Luetschenbach. Maria
> Katharina ? in Luetschenbach on 3 May 1857; she was
> 62.
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Schweinlin, Johannes, Bauer <7322>
* : 20 Apr 1785 Luetschenbach + : 31 Dez 1855 Luetschenba
V: Schweinlin, Johannes M: Schultheiss, An
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 2) 10 Jan 1816 Wehrlin, Maria Catharina <7332> "1885"
oo: 1) 26 Jul 1808 Vogelbach "1884"
0 0 Hafner, Anna Catharina, <293
* : 20 Mai 1786 Marzell + : 6 Jan 1814 Luetschenba
V: Hafner Simon M: Homberger Maria Barba
KINDER:
1. Schweinlin, Johann, * 1809+ 1814 <7328>
2. Schweinlin, Johann Jacob, * 1810+ 1892 <7329>
3. Schweinlin, Anna Catharina, * 1811+ 1814 <7330>
4. Schweinlin, Maria Barbara, * 1813+ <7331>
0 0 Wehrlin, Maria Catharina, <7332>
* : 5 Dez 1794 Luetschenbach + : 3 Mai 1857 Luetschenba
V: Wehrlin, Michael M: Homberger, Maria Cathari
oo: 1) 10 Jan 1816 Vogelbach "1885"
0 0 Schweinlin, Johannes, Bauer <732
* : 20 Apr 1785 Luetschenbach + : 31 Dez 1855 Luetschenba
V: Schweinlin Johannes M: Schultheiss An
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 1) 26 Jul 1808 Hafner, Anna Catharina <2939> "1884"
KINDER:
1. Schweinlin, Catharina, * 1816+ 1862 <7333>
2. Schweinlin, Johannes, * 1817+ 1908 <7334>
3. Schweinlin, Anna Maria, * 1819+ 1867 <7335>
4. Schweinlin, Barbara, * 1822+ 1892 <7337>
5. Schweinlin, Friedrich, * 1824+ 1908 <7338>
6. Schweinlin, Verena, * 1825+ 1902 <7339>
7. Schweinlin, Mathias, * 1827+ 1828 <7340>
8. Schweinlin, Mathias, * 1829+ 1913 <7341>
9. Schweinlin, Anna, * 1830+ 1865 <7336>
10. Schweinlin, Johann Georg, * 1833+ 1898 <7342>
Johannes married WEHRLIN, Maria Katharina 10 Jan 1816, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Maria (daughter of WEHRLIN, Michael and HOMBERGER, Maria Catharina) was born 5 Dec 1794, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 3 May 1857, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
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11. | WEHRLIN, Maria Katharina was born 5 Dec 1794, Luetschenbach, Germany (daughter of WEHRLIN, Michael and HOMBERGER, Maria Catharina); died 3 May 1857, Luetschenbach, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Wehrlin, Maria Catharina, <7332>
* : 5 Dez 1794 Luetschenbach + : 3 Mai 1857 Luetschenba
V: Wehrlin, Michael M: Homberger, Maria Cathari
oo: 1) 10 Jan 1816 Vogelbach "1885"
0 0 Schweinlin, Johannes, Bauer <732
* : 20 Apr 1785 Luetschenbach + : 31 Dez 1855 Luetschenba
V: Schweinlin Johannes M: Schultheiss An
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 1) 26 Jul 1808 Hafner, Anna Catharina <2939> "1884"
KINDER:
1. Schweinlin, Catharina, * 1816+ 1862 <7333>
2. Schweinlin, Johannes, * 1817+ 1908 <7334>
3. Schweinlin, Anna Maria, * 1819+ 1867 <7335>
4. Schweinlin, Barbara, * 1822+ 1892 <7337>
5. Schweinlin, Friedrich, * 1824+ 1908 <7338>
6. Schweinlin, Verena, * 1825+ 1902 <7339>
7. Schweinlin, Mathias, * 1827+ 1828 <7340>
8. Schweinlin, Mathias, * 1829+ 1913 <7341>
9. Schweinlin, Anna, * 1830+ 1865 <7336>
10. Schweinlin, Johann Georg, * 1833+ 1898 <7342>
Children:
- SCHWEINLIN, Catharina was born 1816, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1862.
- SCHWEINLIN, Johannes was born 1817, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1908.
- SCHWEINLIN, Anna Maria was born 1819, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1867.
- SCHWEINLIN, Barbara was born 1822, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1892.
- SCHWEINLIN, Friedrich was born 1824, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1908.
- 5. SCHWEINLIN, Verena was born 23 Sep 1825, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 19 Oct 1902, Haagen, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWEINLIN, Mathias was born 1827, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1828.
- SCHWEINLIN, Mathias was born 1829, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1913.
- SCHWEINLIN, Anna was born 1830, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1865.
- SCHWEINLIN, Johann Georg was born 1833, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 1898.
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12. | SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friz" was born 13 Sep 1772, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (son of SCHWALD, Johann "Hans" Georg and WAGNER, Anna Maria); died 19 Dec 1839, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Friedrich married HOMBERGER, Anna Barbara 17 Feb 1801, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Anna (daughter of HOMBERGER, Jacob and LAIS, Anna Barbara) was born 17 Jan 1778, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 3 Feb 1852, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]
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13. | HOMBERGER, Anna Barbara was born 17 Jan 1778, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (daughter of HOMBERGER, Jacob and LAIS, Anna Barbara); died 3 Feb 1852, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Notes:
Dates from Fred Wehrle
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500
It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
shown as Friedrich.)
2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
as Friz.)
You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
(Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
quality.
Notes:
http://www.familysearch.org
FRIZ SCHWALD
Spouse: ANNA BARBARA HOMBERGER Family
Marriage: 17 FEB 1801 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ
M936741 1738 - 1833 1189732
Children:
- SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich" was born 4 Mar 1798, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 28 May 1860, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Anna Barbara was born 4 May 1800, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 1862, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Anna Catharina was born 29 Apr 1802, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Anna Maria was born 28 Oct 1804, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Magdalena was born 14 Sep 1806, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friederich" was born 1 Dec 1809, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Johann Georg was born 4 Dec 1811, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Friedlin was born 28 May 1814, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- SCHWALD, Johann Jacob "John J." was born 7 Jan 1818, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- 6. SCHWALD, Johannes was born 27 Jul 1822, Fischenberg, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany; was christened 11 Aug 1822, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 4 Jan 1863, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; was buried 6 Jan 1863, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
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14. | PFUNDER, Jacob Friedrich was born 29 Nov 1788, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (son of PFUNDER, Johann Georg and DOEBELIN, Anna Maria); died Bef 1845, Germany. Notes:
From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Cc: H.Trurnit
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Dieter
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:42:03 +0200
falsch: Jakob Friedrich Pfunder oo Anna Maria Buerger
richtig: Jakob Friedrich Pfunder oo Anna Maria Laeuger !!
Marriage Notes for Johannes Schwald and Maria Magdalena Pfunder:
Per David Gudeman of Wichita, Kansas, in an email dated 3/21/2002:
The marriage record of Johannes Schwald on July 10, 1845, shows that.
1.He was born in Wies on July 27, 1822.
2. He was the son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger. (A person named Friedrich was often times shown as Fritz which may looked like Lutz.)
3. At the time of the marriage he was living in Kaltenbach.
4. The marriage ceremony was performed in Kaltenbach. The little church in Vogelbach was custodian of the vital records of the citizens of Vogelbach, Malsburg, and Kaltenbach. For a long time it kept the records also for Marzell, but Marzell later started keeping its own records.
5. He married Maria Magdalena Pfunder, born in Hofen on July 27, 1823.
6. Her parents were Jakob Friedrich Pfunder and Anna Maria (error ...Buerger..correct ...Anna Maria Laeuger).
7. The fathers of both Johannes and Maria Magdalena were deceased at the time of the marriage.
Per David:
I got this information fom a micro- film in the Mormon Church Library which they make available, even to non-members such as me.
I have identified no direct connection (between David's family & Roderick's), but I am confident that there are a few, if we wanted to go back far enough. After all, there are 2 Pfunders and 1 Kropf in my ancestry
Jacob married LAEUGER, Anna Maria 1820, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany . Anna (daughter of Living and Living) was born 30 Oct 1793, Weitenau, Loerrach, Freiburg, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany; died 8 Aug 1875, Germany. [Group Sheet]
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15. | LAEUGER, Anna Maria was born 30 Oct 1793, Weitenau, Loerrach, Freiburg, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany (daughter of Living and Living); died 8 Aug 1875, Germany. Other Events:
- Also Known As: LAEUGER LEUGER
Notes:
familysearch.org
Anna Maria LAEUGER
Spouse: Johann Jacob ROSSKOPF
Marriage: 27 Feb 1809
Hofen, Schopfheim, Loerrach, Baden
From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Cc: Hanno
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet
Subject: Correction
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 21:35:41 -0500
The mother of Maria Magdalena Pfunder, the wife of Johannes Schwald (1822), was Anna Maria Leuger, not Anna Maria Buerger as I previously stated. When Anna Maria married Jakob Friedrich Pfunder in Hofen in 1820, she was the widow of Johann Jacob Rosskopf, the Vogt of Hofen who died on August 6, 1819. Both the record of the death of her first husband in 1819 and the record of her second marriage in 1820 clearly shows that her name was anna Maria Leuger, not Anna Maria Laeuger (Laeuger) as Fred Wehrle states.
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Diete
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:42:03 +0200
falsch: Jakob Friedrich Pfunder oo Anna Maria Buerger
richtig: Jakob Friedrich Pfunder oo Anna Maria Laeuger !!
Marriage Notes for Johannes Schwald and Maria Magdalena Pfunder:
Per David Gudeman of Wichita, Kansas, in an email dated 3/21/2002:
The marriage record of Johannes Schwald on July 10, 1845, shows that.
1.He was born in Wies on July 27, 1822.
2. He was the son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger. (A person named Friedrich was often times shown as Fritz which may looked like Lutz.)
3. At the time of the marriage he was living in Kaltenbach.
4. The marriage ceremony was performed in Kaltenbach. The little church in Vogelbach was custodian of the vital records of the citizens of Vogelbach, Malsburg, and Kaltenbach. For a long time it kept the records also for Marzell, but Marzell later started keeping its own records.
5. He married Maria Magdalena Pfunder, born in Hofen on July 27, 1823.
6. Her parents were Jakob Friedrich Pfunder and Anna Maria Buerger.
7. The fathers of both Johannes and Maria Magdalena were deceased at the time of the marriage.
Per David:
I got this information fom a micro- film in the Mormon Church Library which they make available, even to non-members such as me.
I have identified no direct connection (between David's family & Roderick's), but I am confident that there are a few, if we wanted to go back far enough. After all, there are 2 Pfunders and 1 Kropf in my ancestry
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet
Subject: Leuger or Laeuger?
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:11:11 -0500
There is some confusion about the correct spelling of the surname of Anna Maria, the mother-in -law of Johannes Schwald (1822). The various spellings of Leuger, Laeuger, and Laeuger (Laeuger and Laeuger are equivalent spellings, as you probably know) were sometimes alternately used.
Anna Maria's father was Fritz (Friedrich) Laeuger and her mother was Anna Maria Laeugerin (Yes, they had the same last names.), as shown on Anna Maria's birth record In Weitenau on October 30, 1793. After Anna Maria's birth, the parents went on to have eight more children from 1799 to1815. In all cases the parents were shown as Laeuger and Laeugerin, except for the birth of their last child in 1815. In that case they slipped a cog and the parents were shown as Friedrich Leuger and Anna Maria Leuger. In 1819, their daughter, Maria (not Anna Maria), had an illegitimate daughter, Maria Katharina, and both Maria and her father, Friedrich, were shown as Leuger.
When Anna Maria (1793) married her first husband, Johann Jacob Rosskopf, in1809, she was shown as Laeugerin and her father was shown as Laeuger. However, when Johann Jacob died in 1819, Anna Maria was shown as Leuger. When she married Johann Georg Pfunder in 1820, she was again shown Leuger.
If you follow the rule of showing a person's name as shown on the birth record, Anna Maria (1793) should be shown as Anna Maria Laeuger, as, indeed, Fred shows it.
The OSB of Weitenau shows something curious. The family page of Anna Maria and her first husband, Johann Jacob Rosskopf, shows Anna Maria (shown as Marie) as Leuger, and her father, Friedrich, as Leuger but her mother, Anna Maria, as Laeuger.
I am beginning to think that those who collect the data for the OSBs are not quite as careful as one would expect them to be.
Incidently, I am about to wind up my research on the Schwald clan, and I have numerous copies of pages from the Mormon Microfilms for which I will have no future use. If you would like to have them, I will be glad to send them to you if you will send me your address.
familysearch.org
Johann Jacob ROSSKOPF
Spouse: Anna Maria LAEUGER
Marriage: 27 Feb 1809
Hofen, Schopfheim, Loer., Baden
Maria Barbara ROSSKOPF
Birth: 7 Jan 1812
Hofen, Schopfheim, Loer., Baden
Father: Johann Jacob ROSSKOPF
Mother: Anna Maria LAEUGER
Anna Maria ROSSKOPF
Birth: 30 Jul 1814
Hofen, Schopfheim, Loer., Baden
Father: Johann Jacob ROSSKOPF
Mother: Anna Maria LAEUGER
Anna Maria ROSSKOPF
Birth: 8 Jun 1817
Hofen, Schopfheim, Loer., Baden
Father: Johann Jacob ROSSKOPF
Mother: Anna Maria LAEUGER
Children:
- 7. PFUNDER, Maria Magdalena was born 27 Jul 1823, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany ; died Aft 1872, Basel, Switzerland.
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