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3651 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I08395)
 
3652 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I08396)
 
3653 familysearch.org
extracted christening record for the locality
Christening: 03 Jul 1732 Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		SCHWEINLIN, Rosina (I07250)
 
3654 familysearch.org
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit
 		METJE, Anna (I02170)
 
3655 familysearch.org
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit 		METJE, Anna (I02170)
 
3656 familysearch.org
Maria LEISINGER
Birth: 19 May 1639
Heubronn, Neuenweg, Loerrach, Baden
Father: Georg LEISINGER
Mother: Anna WAGNER  		LEISINGER, Maria (I01031)
 
3657 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I01029)
 
3658 familysearch.org
Maria LEISINGER
Birth: 19 Sep 1673
Heubronn, Baden, Germany
Father: Kilian LEISINGER
Mother: Verena PIPP  		LEISINGER, Maria (I01032)
 
3659 familysearch.org
Nebraska, Marriages, 1855-1995 		Family: RIGGS, Charles Walter / BAYLESS, Cynthia E. (F3776)
 
3660 familysearch.org
Nebraska, Marriages, 1855-1995,
Groom's Name: Walter Riggs, 1893
Bride's Name: Cynthia Bayless
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X5Z8-L36 		BAYLESS, Cynthia E. (I11339)
 
3661 familysearch.org
Washington Death Certificates 1907-1960

Washington State Death Records
www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/
image number: 1360
document number: 11
document reference id: 1114
name: Winnie Carpenter
date of death: 30 Mar 1929
age: 25
gender: Female
marital status: married
spouse name: Warren Carpenter
father name: Fred Schwald
mother name: Lizzie Gyger
death place: Seattle, King, Washington 		SCHWALD, Winifred "Winnie" N. (I00059)
 
3662 familysearch.org
washington death certificates 1907-1960
name: Ema Gyger
death: 21 March 1909
age: 45 years 5 months 18 days
father name: John Weeble 		WEIBEL, Verena (Verenia Emma) (I00294)
 
3663 familysearch.org
washington death certificates 1907-1960
name: Hazel May Holmes
death: 24 December 1928
death place: Hoquiam, Grays Harbor, Washington
age at death: 32 years 5 months 23 days
marital status: married
spouse name: Haven Holmes
father name: Albert Guyger
mother name :Laura Schlnezk 		GYGER, Hazel (I00300)
 
3664 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Family: ASAL, Andreas (Asaal) / Living (F3170)
 
3665 At least one living or private individual is linked to this note - Details withheld. Living (I09697)
 
3666 familysearch.org GLATT, Johann Jakob (I02231)
 
3667 familysearch.org GLATT, Johann Jakob (I02231)
 
3668 familysearch.org GLATT, Maria Verena (I02230)
 
3669 familysearch.org GLATT, Maria Verena (I02230)
 
3670 familysearch.org Hanno Trurnit

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit 		BAUER, Hans (I00749)
 
3671 familysearch.org Hanno Trurnit

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit 		LEUS, Anna (I00750)
 
3672 familysearch.org Hanno Trurnit

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit 		BAUER, Catharina (I00748)
 
3673 familysearch.org Hanno Trurnit

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit 		SAEGER, Catarina (I00753)
 
3674 familysearch.org Hanno Trurnit
Occupation: Buerger in Raich

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com Hanno Trurnit
birth: abt. 1615 		BAUER, Hans (I00751)
 
3675 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 01 JAN 1783 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden 		BRAENDLIN, Rosina Barbara (I10258)
 
3676 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 12 May 1788 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		BRAENDLIN, Johannes (I10262)
 
3677 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 13 Oct 1789 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		BRAENDLIN, Magdalena (I10263)
 
3678 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 14 Jun 1776 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		BRAENDLIN, Johann Jacob (I10259)
 
3679 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 17 Jul 1784 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		BRAENDLIN, Johann Georg (I10261)
 
3680 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 26 Jan 1779 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		BRAENDLIN, Anna Barbara (I10260)
 
3681 familysearch.org pilot search
Christening: 8 Aug 1794 Badenweiler, Loerrach, Baden, Germany 		BRAENDLIN, Maria Barbara (I10264)
 
3682 familysearch.org pilot search
lists children

Fred Wehrle email 9 Nov 2008:
Johannes Schwald * 19.2.1785 Kirchhhausen + 15.1.1862
illegitimer Sohn des Johann Schwald, Scherenschleifer, zu Schopfheim
u.d. Elisabeth Brunner * CH Frauenfeld, eine Vagantin

TRANSLATION:
Johannes Schwald, born 19 Feb 1785 Kirchhausen, Germany died 15 Jan 1862
Illegitimate son of Johann Schwald, a scissors sharpener, of Schopfheim,
and of Elisabeth Brunner, born Frauenfeld, Switzerland, a vagrant.

Johann Jakob Schwald was the illegitimate son of:
Johannes Schwald, Official farm-hand, living in Weitenau and of
Rosina Barbara Braendlin, born 20 Feb 1782 Sehringen, Germany, who died 15 March 1848 Sehringen, Germany, daughter of Johann Jakob Braendlin and of Rosina Schweinlin. 		SCHWALD, Johannes (I10273)
 
3683 familysearch.org pilot search Family: BRAENDLIN, Johann "Hans" Jacob (Brendlin) / SCHWEINLIN, Rosina (F3320)
 
3684 FATHER DISCREPANCY FOR CHILD #2 Maria del Refugio:
- Jose RODRIGUEZ; Baptism record
- Simplicio VALDEZ; Marriage record 		Family: VALDEZ, Simplicio / LOPEZ, Maria Andrea de la Luz (F4379)
 
3685 FATHER DISCREPANCY FOR CHILD #2 Maria del Refugio:
- Jose RODRIGUEZ; Baptism record
- Simplicio VALDEZ; Marriage record 		Family: RODRIGUEZ, Jose Estevan / LOPEZ, Maria Andrea de la Luz (F4380)
 
3686 FATHER OF CHILDREN #3-5: No baptism records can be located for these children. UNSUBSTANTIATED, but MOST LIKELY, Eugenio Lisalde is ALSO the father of these children. Family: [E]LISALDE, Eugenio Lara / SANCHEZ, Maria Andrea Silveria (F5405)
 
3687 FATHER OF FRANCISCA ALVARADO:
- Father ERRONEOUSLY listed as Miguel ALVARADO (He died abt. 6 years BEFORE her birth); Bap. record 		Family: UNKNOWN, Unknown / AVILA, Maria Ysabel (F7025)
 
3688 FATHER OF JOAQUIN TICO:
- Msn. San Carlos Marriage Record: #604) Dec 2, 1801- Atrio Misn.- YGNACIO TEXO, soldado Vol. natl. dela Ciudad de Zamora en Castilla, h.l. de Alonzo Texo y Antonia Diez,
with MARIA BUENAVENTURA, hija de Maria Ramirez, India natural de Sinaloa;
TTs. Don Joaquin Tico, Sargto. dela Compa. Cataluna, hijo de Juan Tico, Carnicer
 		Family: TICO, Juan / UNKNOWN, Unknown (F7333)
 
3689 FATHER OF JOHANNES SCHWALD b. 27 Oct 1752:
- Johannes SCHWALD; per D.J. Gudeman
http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/u/d/David-J-Gudeman-KS/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0999.html 		Family: SCHWALD, Johannes / UNKNOWN, Unknown (F7186)
 
3690 FATHER OF Pedro Martir COTA:

Miguel Gregorio COTA, Santa Barb. Bap. #242, dob 8 May 1802, is UNSUBSTANTIATED but MOST LIKELY the father of Pedro.
- He is the only Miguel COTA found in the mission records born within the time frame to associate him as being the father. 		Family: COTA, Miguel Gregorio / URIBES, Juana Maria Antonia (F6167)
 
3691 FATHER OF Pedro Martir COTA:

Miguel Gregorio COTA, Santa Barb. Bap. #242, dob 8 May 1802, is UNSUBSTANTIATED but MOST LIKELY the father of Pedro.
- He is the only Miguel COTA found in the mission records born within the time frame to associate him as being the father. 		COTA, Pedro Martir (I18962)
 
3692 FATHER OF THIS FAMILY VALIDATION:

This Enrique Avila is unsubstantiated as being the father of Crisanta Almenares.
He is the MOST LIKELY the correct person because no other Enrique Avila is found in the 1836 & 1844 Los Angeles censuses or in the T.W. Temple Mission Records. 		Family: AVILA, Enrique / ALMENARES, Maria del Pilar (F4493)
 
3693 Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002

Johann Friedrich Schwald (1798), a son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger,
married Anna Barbara Weiss (not Weis) in Fischenberg on July 28, 1825. She was a daughter
of Martin Weiss. Anna Barbara Weiss died in Wies in 1827 when she was 25 years,
2 months, and 29 days old.At that time Johann Friedrich was shown as a citizen and bkacksmith (Nagelschmidt) in Wies.

He married Barbara Doerflinger of Wies in Wies on December 3, 1828. She was a daughter
of the deceased Mathias Doerflinger of Wies. Barbara was born in Wies on April 29, 1801.
At the time of his second marriage, Johann Friedrich was still shown as a Nagelschmidt in Wies
 		DOERFLINGER, Barbara (I07866)
 
3694 Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002

The birth record of Magdalena Schwald, the daughter of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger, clearly shows that she was born in September 1806, not in August 1806, as Fred states. The exact day in September is questionable, but not the month. You can bet the South forty on this. I wonder where Fred came up with the month of August.

His mother: Madelaine Schwald: deceased 19 05 1844 in Kaltenbach Baden Germany

Bonjour Christof,

Je te remercie beaucoup pour ton e-mail, et merci beaucoup d'avoir ?crit en
fran?ais. Je vais te donner les noms et les dates de mes anc?tres au moment
ou ils sont arriv?s en France. Ne connaissant pas l'allemand je n'ai pas pu
faire des recherches en Allemagne.

Raymond Schwald : n? le 24 01 1954 ? Strasbourg en France.
Mon p?re : Robert Schwald : n? le 12 03 1925 ? Colmar en France
Son p?re : Fran?ois, Eug?ne Schwald : n? le 28 12 1883 ? Turckheim en
France.
Son p?re : Fran?ois-Joseph Schwald : n? le 04 06 1861 ? Turckheim en France.
Son p?re : Jean, Georges Schwald : n? le 29 11 1829 ? Fischenberg (
Fichenberg ?) Bade en Allemagne.
Sa m?re : Madelaine Schwald : d?c?d? le 19 05 1844 ? Kaltenbach Bade en
Allemagne.
Son p?re : Fr?d?rique Schwald : d?c?d? le 19 12 1839 ? Fischenberg Bade en
Allemagne

Certains documents ?crivent Fischenberg avec un s ou sans s !

Fischenberg d?pendrait de la paroisse de Wies (code postale 79697) et cette
derni?re d?pendrait de Weitenau ?
Kaltenbach d?pendrait de la paroisse de Vogelbach ( code postal 79875) ?

Je ne suis pas s?r de ces informations.

Si tu pouvais m'aider dans mes recherches je serais tr?s heureux.

Merci beaucoup et ? bient?t,
Raymond Schwald.

Hello Christof,
I thank you much for your e-mail, and thank you very much for writing in French. I will give you the names and the dates of my ancestors at the time they arrived to France.

Not knowing German, I have not been able to make research in Germany.

Raymond Schwald: born 24 01 1954 in Strasbourg in France.
My father: Robert Schwald: born 12 03 1925 in Colmar in France.
His father: Francois, Eugene Schwald: born 28 12 1883 in Turckheim in France.
His father: Fran?ois-Joseph Schwald: born 04 06 1861 in Turckheim in France.
His father: Jean, George Schwald: born 29 11 1829 in Fischenberg Baden Germany.
His mother: Madelaine Schwald: deceased 19 05 1844 in Kaltenbach Baden Germany.
Her father: Frederique Schwald: deceased 19 12 1839 in Fischenberg Baden Germany

Certain documents write Fischenberg with an S or without S!
Would Fischenberg depend on the parish of Wies (code postal 79697) and the latter would depend on Weitenau?
Would Kaltenbach depend on the parish of Vogelbach (postal code 79875)?
I am not sure of this information. If you could assist in my research I would be very happy.
Thank you very much and write soon,
Raymond Schwald. 		SCHWALD, Magdalena (I07190)
 
3695 Father shown as Friedrich

From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500

It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
shown as Friedrich.)
2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
as Friz.)
You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
(Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
quality.

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002

Johann Friedrich Schwald (1798), a son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger, married Anna Barbara Weiss (not Weis) in Fischenberg on July 28, 1825. She was a daughter of Martin Weiss. Anna Barbara Weiss died in Wies in 1827 when she was 25 years, 2 months, and 29 days old. At that time Johann Friedrich was shown as a citizen and bkacksmith (Nagelschmidt) in Wies. He married Barbara Doerflinger of Wies in Wies on December 3, 1828. She was a daughter of the deceased Mathias Doerflinger of Wies. Barbara was born in Wies on April 29, 1801. At the time of his second marriage, Johann Friedrich was still shown as a Nagelschmidt in Wies. 		SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich" (I07114)
 
3696 Father shown as Friedrich

Per David Gudeman:

Anna Maria had a daughter named Anna Maria in Fischenberg on December 9, 1827 		SCHWALD, Anna Maria (I07191)
 
3697 Father shown as Fritz

1. Per Fred Wehrle Vogelbach/Marzell OSB pg. 440 		SCHWALD, Friedlin (I07193)
 
3698 Father shown as Fritz

From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Schwald lineage
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500

It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two
children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site.
1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was
shown as Friedrich.)
2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown
as Friz.)
You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal
for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father
rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was,
and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying
later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage
were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born
after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich.
(Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's
website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it
did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage.
It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage,
and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but
fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822.
It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara
Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was
not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor.
Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg.
Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks
up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage
because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than
quality. 		SCHWALD, Anna Barbara (I07115)
 
3699 Father shown as Fritz

From: dave gudeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:40 AM
To: Roderick Schwald
Cc: Fred Wehrle
Subject: Schwald lineage

It is true that you and Dieter Scfwald of Malsburg are related. However, information that Hanno sent me failed to make the connection. Dieter's lineage went back 4 generations and then it hit a snag by omitting generations # 5 and #6 and then jumping to generation #7. The confusion may have been caused by the fact that Gustav Schwald of generation #4 was illegitimate and was born as Gustav Homberger, not as Gustav Schwald. In the event that this confusion has not already been clarified, I submit the following:
#4 Generation: Gustav Schwald (born as Gustav Homberger) was born in Wies on February 15, 1861, to Maria Barbara Homberger, a single woman. Gustav married Carolina Spohn in Wies on May 21, 1885. They had a son, Wilhelm, born in Wies on January 7, 1887. Carolina was born in Wies on October 3, 1860, to Wilhelm Spohn and Maria Katharina Graesslin.
#5 Generation: Johann Georg Schwald was born in Wies on July 19, 1836, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Maria Flatt. Johann Georg married Maria Barbara Homberger in Wies on November 14, 1861. They had a son, Gustav, on February 15, 1861, out of wedlock. Maria Barbara was born in Wies on November 3, 1837, to Georg Friedrich Homberger and Anna Maria Schlageter(?).
#6 Generation: Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald was born in Fischenberg on December 1, 1809, to Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger. Friedrich married Anna Maria Flatt in Wies on September 9, 1833. They had a son, Johann Georg, in Wies on July 19, 1836. Anna Maria Flatt was a widow of Johann Lenzin of Wies, who died on August 16, 1831.
#7 Generation: Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald was born in Fischenberg on September 13, 1772, to Johann Georg Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner. Friedrich married Anna Barbara Homberger in Wies on February 17, 1801. They had a son, Friedrich,. in Fischenberg on December 1, 1809.

This means that Friedrich (Fritz) Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger are the common ancestors of you and Dieter.
As it turns out, there were three missing generations rather than two, as stated in Hanno's E-mail.

The foregoing information was obtained from Mormon Micro-films 1189731, 1189732, and 1189733.

From: "dave gudeman"
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002

In Dieter's line, the wife of Friedrich Schwald (1809) was definitely (repeat, definitely) shown in the marriage record in 1833 as Anna Maria Flatt (not Flad) of Wies. In later years, the name Flad is commonally found in the Malsburg records. It appears that the spelling of the name may have gradually permuted from Flatt to Flad. Another possibility (although I seriously doubt it) is that there were two distinct families with similar names.

Note: Anna Maria Flatt was born on August 17, 1810 in Wies. When she married Friedrich in 1833, she was a widow. Her first husband, Johannes Buergin, died in Wies on August 16, 1831. 		SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friederich" (I01943)
 
3700 Father shown as Fritz SCHWALD, Johann Georg (I07192)
 

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