SCHWALD, Johann "Hanss Hannss Jerg" Georg

1715 -

• Name	SCHWALD, Johann "Hanss Hannss Jerg" Georg
  	NAME VARIATIONS: - Hanß [Hanss] Jerg SCHWALD; Bap. record (ancestry.com)
  Birth	24 Apr 1715	Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  	BIRTH DATE DISCREPANCIES: - 29 Apr 1715; Bap. record (ancestry.com)
  Christening	26 Apr 1715	Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany   [1, 2]
  Gender	Male
  Notes	Per LDS site: Johann Georg SCHWALD Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Maria LENZ Marriage: 17 Sep 1738 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden -----Original Message----- From: christof schwald Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:13 PM To: Roderick Schwald Cc: Janet Subject: Re: I am Back Hi Roderick, I'm glad to hear good news about your wife doing well and I have news for you: Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in 1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we met first) and had eight children: Magdalena * 1738 Schwand Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752 Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742 Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line) Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg Maria * 1746 Fischenberg Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line) The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were: Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach married in 1711 in Gersbach Anna Kneusslin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of Hans Kneusslin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach The parents of Michael Schwald were: Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ? married 1677 in Neuenweg Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner and Verena Zeh from Neuenweg The parents of Bernhard Schwald were: Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg married 1643 in Neuenweg Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg They had twelve children! I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be all Schwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church books before 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybody has a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have! Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wich is about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in The high black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in the summertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people with many children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers. So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" went all summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even in the family of the farmer. Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. May be he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an other festival. Now you can complete your Stammbaum with 12 generations! Wish you a good work! Christof From: dgudeman Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 3:49 PM To: Roderick Schwald Subject: Johann Georg Schwald -Maria Lenzin family Per Christof: Look in the old mail and find Johann Georg Schwald He was born in 1715 in Gersbach and married Maria Lentz from Schwand in 1737. They lived in Wies-Fischenberg (You've been there the day we met first) and had eight children: Magdalena * 1738 Schwand Anna * 1741 Schwand + 1752 Maria * 1742 Fischenberg + 1742 Johann Georg *1743 Fischenberg (your line) Johann Jacob * 1745 Fischenberg Maria * 1746 Fischenberg Margaretha * 1749 Fischenberg Johann Friedrich * 1751 Fischenberg (my line) The parents of Johann Georg Schwald were: Michael Schwald, * 1685 Neuenweg, + 1745 Gersbach married in 1711 in Gersbach Anna Kneusslin, * 1682 Gersbach, + 1759 Gersbach, daughter of Hans Kneusslin and Anna Meyer in Gersbach The parents of Michael Schwald were: Bernhard Schwald, * 1655 Neuenweg, + ? married 1677 in Neuenweg Catharina Bleickner, *1656 in Neuenweg, daughter of Jacob Bleickner and Verena Zeh from Neuenweg The parents of Bernhard Schwald were: Jacob Schwald, *1614 in Neuenweg, + 1686 in Neuenweg married 1643 in Neuenweg Maria Kiefer, *1613 in Neuenweg, + 1677 in Neuenweg They had twelve children! I think Werner Schwalds line goes from one of this children. May be all Schwald lines go from this Jacob Schwald. There are no church books before 1600, so we can't go on now! I think it's ok here. Not everybody has a Stammbaum to 1613 but we have! Another interesting thing is, how Michael Schwald came to Gersbach wich is about two days-walks from Neuenweg. Gersbach is like Neuenweg in The high black-forrest. I think that he had to go there as a boy in the summertime to keep care for the cows of other farmers. Poor people with many children used to give some children away in summer to other farmers. So they didn't have to feed them this time. Often those "cowboys" went all summer to the same farm and often married in the village or even in the family of the farmer. Michaels son Johann Georg went back to the area his father was born. May be he found his wife when he joined a wedding of a cousin or an other festival. per email: Johann Georg Schwald of Grenzach married Maria Lenzin of Schwand in Wies on September 17, 1738. The father of Johann Georg was Michel Schwaldin of Grenzach (shown as Greszach) and an unnamed mother. The father of Maria was Michel Lenzin and an unnamed mother. The children of Johann Georg and Maria were: 1. Maria, born in Fischenberg on September 20, 1742. (The father was shown as Hans Jerg.) 2. Johann Georg, born in Fischenberg on September 10, 1743. (The father is shown as Hans Jerg.) 3. Johann Jacob, born in Fischenberg on January 11, 1744. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.) 4. Maria, born in Fischenberg on August 6, 1746. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.) 5. Margaretha, born in Fischenberg on February 20, 1748. (The father was shown as Johann Georg.) 6. Friedrich, born in Fischenberg on May, 24, 1750. (The father was shown as Hans Georg.) All data are from roll #1189732. I suspect that other children were born between 1738 and 1742 in, perhaps, Grenzach or Schwand. It was highly unusual for a couple to wait four years before having their first child, and it was even not at all uncommon for the bride to be pregnant at the time of the marriage. What micro-film rolls have you ordered? I have some reservations about Grenzach. It is spelled in an unusual way on the marriage record and it is a long way from Fischenberg and Schwand. Althoug there is no other name spelled even close to it, further research needs to verify it. NOTE: LAST BORN SON...IS CHRISTOF'S ANCESTOR...CHRISTOF'S BRANCH STARTS HERE Johann Georg SCHWALD Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Maria LENZ Marriage: 17 Sep 1738 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type M936741 1738-1833 1189732
  Person ID	I00741	1. Schwald - WA-NY-OR-TX
  Last Modified	23 Mar 2016

  
  

  Father	SCHWALD, Michael,   b. 25 Jul 1685, Kurnberg, Schopfheim, Loerrach, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany d. Abt. 18 Feb 1745, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age 59 years)
  Mother	KNUESSLERIN, Anna (Kneusslin),   b. 27 Mar 1682, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany d. 4 Sep 1759, Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age 77 years)
  Family ID	F0403	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	LENTZ, Maria,   b. Abt 1717, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  Marriage	17 Sep 1738	Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany   [3]
  Children	+ 1. SCHWALD, Magdalena,   b. 16 Sep 1738, Schwand, Germany d. 28 Apr 1805, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age 66 years)   2. SCHWALD, Anna,   b. 1741, Schwand, Germany d. 1752 (Age 11 years)   3. SCHWALD, Maria,   b. 20 Sep 1742, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany d. 1742 + 4. SCHWALD, Johann "Hans" Georg,   b. 10 Sep 1743, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany   5. SCHWALD, Johann Jacob,   b. 11 Jan 1744, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany   6. SCHWALD, Maria,   b. 6 Aug 1746, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany   7. SCHWALD, Margaretha,   b. 20 Feb 1749, Obertegernau, Germany + 8. SCHWALD, Friedrich "Johann Friedrich",   b. 24 May 1751, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany d. 18 Jul 1814, Hasel, Gersbach, Germany (Age 63 years)   9. SCHWALD, Barbara,   b. 5 Apr 1754, Obertegernau, Germany
  Family ID	F0253	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	8 May 2011

  
  

• Event Map		Birth - 24 Apr 1715 - Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Christening - 26 Apr 1715 - Gersbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Marriage - 17 Sep 1738 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany  = Link to Google Earth
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  [S329] AVS-Bap, Marr & Burials - 1502-1985 - Lutheran - Baden, Germany ancestry.com, (ancestry.com). BIRTH/BAPTISM Name: HANß JERG SCHWALD Event Type: Taufe (Baptism) Birth Date: 29 Apr 1715 [ERROR birth date is AFTER Baptism date) Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1715 Baptism Place: Haslach, Baden (Baden-Württemberg), Preußen (Germany) Father: Michel Schwald Mother: Anna Krußlein Parish as it Appears: Haslach Page Number: 78;79 Custodian: Evangelische Landeskirche Baden (Germany) [S226] AVS-Births & Baptisms 1558-1898 - Germany familysearch.org, (familysearch.org), https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V4L8-8L3. BAPTISM Name: HANSS JERG SCHWALD Gender: Male Birth Date: 24 Apr 1715 Christening Date: 26 Apr 1715 Christening Place: EVANGELISCH, GERSBACH, LOERRACH, BADEN Father's Name: Michel Schwald Mother's Name: Anna Knuessler [S098] Archives - www familysearch.org, (familysearch.org). International Genealogical Index Germany JOHANN GEORG SCHWALD Marriages: Spouse: MARIA LENZ Marriage: 17 SEP 1738 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. Source Information: Batch No.: M936741 Dates: 1738 - 1833 Source Call No.: 1189732