FORSTHUBER, Johannes

1841 - 1917  (75 years)

• Name	FORSTHUBER, Johannes
  Birth	1 Nov 1841	Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany
  Gender	Male
  Occupation	Schuster
  Death	13 May 1917
  Notes	From: dgudeman Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:33 PM To: Roderick Schwald Subject: Maria Barbara Schwald (1844) Maria Barbara Schwald (1844) had an illegitimate daughter named Maria Barbara on January 19, 1864, in Kaltenbach. She had a second illegitimate daughter in Kaltenbach on March 27, 1866, named Ernstina. On July 8, 1866, Johannes Forsthuber of Kaltenbach acknowledged that he was the father of Ernstina (inexplicity, shown as Verena Ernstina). We can make the reasonable assumption that he was the father also of Maria Barbara (1864). Johannes Forsthuber and his brother Johann Jacob exchanged favors. Each was a Godfather to illegitimate children fathered by the other. Johann Jacob later married Maria Katharina Lais of Kaltenbach, the mother of his illegitimate child. On March 28, 1867, Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Barbara Schwald in Kaltenbach. They went on to have five more children, all born in Kaltenbach. 1. Albert--April 3, 1870 (Maria Katharina (Lais) Forsthuber was a Godmother.) 2. Ernst Friedrich--May 8, 1871 ( Jacob Friedrich Forsthuber and Johann Georg Forsthuber, two other brothers, were Godfathers.) 3. Emma--December 3, 1872 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.) 4. Albert Friedrich--May, 30, 1875 (Johann Georg Forsthuber was a Godfather.) 5. Anna Maria--May 26, 1877 (Johann Jacob Forsthuber was a Godfather.) Maria Barbara (1844) died sometime after the birth of her last child; and Johannes Forsthuber married Maria Katharina Renk of Kaltenbach (she was 16 years younger) on April 24, 1884. Ernstina (1866) married Alexander Boetsch of Griesheim on February 24, 1887, in Kaltenbach. Johannes Forsthuber and Maria Katharina Renk had a daughter named Sopfia in Kaltenbach. The father of Karl Friedrich Schwald (1866) was never disclosed. Almost always the father of an illegitimate child was identified; and the father usually later married the mother. It is clear that the Schwald and Forsthuber families were very close. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the Forsthuber brothers fathered Karl Friedrich (1866), most likely Jacob Friedrich, who to my knowledge, never married. But sneaking suspicions do not count in Genealogy research. Have Copy of Original Marriage Record from Kaltenbach...from David Gudeman
  Person ID	I02459	1. Schwald - WA-NY-OR-TX
  Last Modified	18 Oct 2008

  
  

  Father	FORSTHUBER, Johann,   b. 1 Jun 1802, Ried, Germany d. 28 Mar 1844, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 41 years)
  Mother	WEISS, Catharina "Katharina" Barbara,   b. 31 Mar 1807, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 27 Jul 1859, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 52 years)
  Family ID	F0963	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	SCHWALD, Maria Barbara,   b. 12 May 1844, Hofen, Loerrrach, Baden, Germany d. 26 May 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 33 years)
  Marriage	28 Mar 1867	Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany   [1]
  Children	1. SCHWALD FORSTHUBER, Marie Barbara,   b. 19 Jan 1864, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany   2. SCHWALD FORSTHUBER, Ernestine (Verena Ernstina),   b. 29 Mar 1866, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany   3. FORSTHUBER, Sophia,   b. Abt. 7 Mar 1868, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany   4. FORSTHUBER, Albert,   b. 3 Apr 1870, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 7 Apr 1870, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 0 years)   5. FORSTHUBER, Ernst Friedrich,   b. 8 May 1871, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany   6. FORSTHUBER, Emma,   b. 3 Dec 1872, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 20 Oct 1874, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 1 year)   7. FORSTHUBER, Albert Friedrich,   b. 30 May 1875, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany   8. FORSTHUBER, Anna Maria,   b. 26 May 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 19 Oct 1877, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 0 years)
  Family ID	F0961	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	24 Mar 2016

  
  

  Family 2	RENK, Maria Catharina "Katharina",   b. 18 May 1857, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany
  Marriage	24 Apr 1884	Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany
  Notes	Have Copy of Original1884 Marriage Record from Kaltenbach...from David Gudeman
  Children	1. FORSTHUBER, Sopfia "Sophia",   b. 28 Apr 1891, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany
  Family ID	F0962	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Event Map		Birth - 1 Nov 1841 - Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany Marriage - 28 Mar 1867 - Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Marriage - 24 Apr 1884 - Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany  = Link to Google Earth
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  [S226] AVS-Births & Baptisms 1558-1898 - Germany familysearch.org, (familysearch.org), https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J4LC-9J3. MARRIAGE - 28 Mar 1867 - Evangelisch, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden Name JOHANN FORSTHUBER Birth Date 01 Nov 1841 Father's Name Johann Forsthuber Mother's Name Katharina Barbara Weiss Spouse's Name MARIA BARBARA SCHWALD Spouse's Birth Date 12 May 1844 Spouse's Father's Name Johann Schwald Spouse's Mother's Name Maria Magdalena Pfunder