SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich"

1798 - 1860  (62 years)

• Name	SCHWALD, Johann "Friedrich"
  Birth	4 Mar 1798	Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  Gender	Male
  Occupation	Nagelschmidt/Blacksmith
  Death	28 May 1860	Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  Notes	Father shown as Friedrich From: "dave gudeman" To: "Janet" Subject: Re: Schwald lineage Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:07:50 -0500 It is true that Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger had two children before they were married, as is shown on Hanno's web-site. 1, Johann Friedrich Schwald, born in Wies on March 4, 1798. (The father was shown as Friedrich.) 2. Anna Barbara Schwald, born in Wies on May 4, 1800. (The father was shown as Friz.) You will notice that they were both born with the Schwald name, quite unusal for a child who was born out of wedlock to be given the name of the father rather the mother. It is obvious that it was no secret who the father was, and Friedrich and Anna Barbara probably had full intentions of marrying later. I find it interesting that the two children born before the marriage were born in Wies, the home of Anna Barbara, whereas the eight children born after the marriage were born in Fischenberg, the home of Friedrich. (Johannes (1822) was born in Fischenberg, not in Wies as shown on Hanno's website.) I missed these two children the first time, probably because it did not occur to me to check for births before the marriage. It is curious that Hanno lists the two children born before the marriage, and the first child born after the marriage, and the last child born; but fails to show the six children born between 1802 and 1822. It is true that a Frieddich Schwald, a widower, married a Barbara Doerflingerin in 1828, as shown on Hanno's website. But this Friedrich was not the Friedrich who was married to Anna Barbara Homberger, your ancestor. Anna Barbara did not die until February 3, 1852 in Fischenberg. Hanno lists over 16,000 names on his web site, and I wonder where he picks up all this information. He is causing a lot of confusion and damage because, it appears to me, he is more interested in quantity rather than quality. From: "dave gudeman" Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 Johann Friedrich Schwald (1798), a son of Friedrich Schwald and Anna Barbara Homberger, married Anna Barbara Weiss (not Weis) in Fischenberg on July 28, 1825. She was a daughter of Martin Weiss. Anna Barbara Weiss died in Wies in 1827 when she was 25 years, 2 months, and 29 days old. At that time Johann Friedrich was shown as a citizen and bkacksmith (Nagelschmidt) in Wies. He married Barbara Doerflinger of Wies in Wies on December 3, 1828. She was a daughter of the deceased Mathias Doerflinger of Wies. Barbara was born in Wies on April 29, 1801. At the time of his second marriage, Johann Friedrich was still shown as a Nagelschmidt in Wies.
  Person ID	I07114	1. Schwald - WA-NY-OR-TX
  Last Modified	19 Oct 2008

  
  

  Father	SCHWALD, Friedrich "Fritz Friz",   b. 13 Sep 1772, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany d. 19 Dec 1839, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age 67 years)
  Mother	HOMBERGER, Anna Barbara,   b. 17 Jan 1778, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany d. 3 Feb 1852, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age 74 years)
  Family ID	F0251	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	WEISS, Anna Barbara,   b. Abt 1802   d. 1827, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age ~ 25 years)
  Marriage	28 Jul 1825	Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  Notes	http://www.familysearch.org JOHANN FRIEDRICH SCHWALD Spouse: ANNA BARBARA WEISS Family Marriage: 28 JUL 1825 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden ------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ M936741 1738 - 1833 1189732
  Family ID	F2689	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	22 Mar 2009

  
  

  Family 2	DOERFLINGER, Barbara,   b. 29 Apr 1801, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  Marriage	3 Dec 1828	Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany
  Notes	http://www.familysearch.org FRIEDRICH SCHWALD Spouse: BARBARA DOERFLINGER Family Marriage: 03 DEC 1828 Evangelisch, Wies, Loerrach, Baden ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Typ M936741 1738 - 1833 1189732 Film NONE
  Family ID	F1763	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	22 Mar 2009

  
  

• Event Map		Birth - 4 Mar 1798 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Marriage - 28 Jul 1825 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Marriage - 3 Dec 1828 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany Death - 28 May 1860 - Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany  = Link to Google Earth
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