1725 - 1785 (60 years)
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Name |
OSSWALD, Barbara |
Birth |
1725 |
Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany |
Gender |
Female |
Death |
5 Mar 1785 |
Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany |
Notes |
- Per Rod's Website:
(Anna Maria Wagner (daughter of Hans Jacob Wagner and Anna Barbara Lensin)14. She married Johann "Hans" Georg Schwald on 27 September 1768 in Demberg, Germany14,
son of Johann Georg Schwald and Maria Lenzin.
More About Anna Maria Wagner and Johann "Hans" Georg Schwald:
Marriage: 27 September 1768, Demberg, Germany.
Children of Anna Maria Wagner and Johann "Hans" Georg Schwald are:
Johann Georg Schwald, b. 30 June 1769, Fischenberg, Germany.
Johann Jacob Schwald, b. 16 June 1770, Fischenberg, Germany.
+Friedrich "Fritz or Friz" Schwald, b. 13 September 1772, Fischenberg, Germany, d. 19 December 1839.)
Hans Jacob Wagner. He married Anna Barbara Lensin.
Notes for Hans Jacob Wagner:
Occupation was a Nagler (a Blacksmith who made nails)
Children of Hans Jacob Wagner and Anna Barbara Lensin are:
+Anna Maria Wagner
Corrected:
From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Cc: H.Trurnit
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Dieter
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet
Subject: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:01:04 -0500
As Fred Wehrle states, the mother of Anna Maria Wagner (Johann Georg Schwald's wife) was Barbara Osswaldin. She was a daughter of Simon Osswald of Kaltenbach. Hans Jacob Wagner of Malsburg (spelled Mahlsburg) and Barbara Osswaldin were married on June 16, 1744, probably in Kaltenbach, since Malsburg has no church. Fred emphatically states that Johann Jakob Wagner was a farmer, not a Nagler. I wonder where he picked up this information. On the marriage record of Johann George Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner in 1764, it very clearly states Hans Jacob Wagner was a Nagler. I found no mention that he was a farmer.
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:42:03 +0200
falsch: Johann Jakob Wagner oo Anna Barbara Lensin
richtig: Johann Jakob Wagner oo 16.06.1744 Vogelbach Barbara Osswald !!
er war nicht Nagler, sondern Bauer in Malsburg und Vogt der Vogt
Vogelbach
Per Fred Wehrle's list 3~12.wps
0 0 Wagner, Johann Jacob, Vogt <7951>
* : 11 Okt 1717 Malsburg + : 31 Jul 1802 Malsbu
V: Wagner, Johannes M: Hafner, Vere
oo: 1) 16 Jun 1744 Vogelbach ?2059?
0 0 Osswald, Barbara, <546
* : 1725 Kaltenbachuvw + : 5 Mar 1785 Malsbu
V: Osswald Simon M: Wagner, An
KINDER:
1. Wagner, Anna Maria, * 27 Feb 1745+ 1799 <7989>
2. Wagner, Johannes, * 21 Feb 1746+ 1748 <7990>
3. Wagner, Verena, * 9 Apr 1747+ 1775 <7991>
4. Wagner, Barbara, * 28 Feb 1749+ 1750 <7992>
5. Wagner, Simon, * 18 Sep 1750+ 1795 <7993>
6. Wagner, Johann Jacob, Vogt * 4 Feb 1753+ 1825 <7994>
7. Wagner, Kunigunde, * 16 Sep 1758+ 1775 <7995>
8. Wagner, Friedrich, Gerichter * 27 Dez 1766+ 1838 <7996>
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:59:26 -0500
It may well be that Hans Jacob and Barbara were married in Vogelbach, but the record of their marriage does not so state. Both Vogelbach and Kaltenbach have churches, and, since Hans Jacob was from Kaltenbach, I felt that the odds favored the Kaltenbach church. Keep in mind that the little church in Vogelbach kept the vital records of both churches, and it may well be that Fred is confusing the place of recording with the place where the ceremony was performed. But surely, Fred must be well familiar with the fact that the Vogelbach church was the custodian of the records for both churches.
Neither does the marriage record reveal that Hans Jacob was a Vogt, which makes me wonder all the more what set of records Fred is working with.
A Vogt is somewhat like a Mayor. A Vogtei is something like an administrative office. The little village of Vogelbach had a stature out of proportion to its size. In addition to the Vogelbach and Kaltenbach churches, Vogelbach was the custodian of the records also for the Marzell church until the latter part of the 18th century, when Marzell started keeping its own records. I have a theory for the elevated position of Vogelbach. The Sausenburg Casthe is across a valley from Vogelbach and, in fact, the ruins can be seen from Vogelbach to this day. I believe that, because of its proximity to the castle, it was assigned the Vogtei centuries ago and, with it, the responibility for keeping the vital records.
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet
Subject: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:01:04 -0500
As Fred Wehrle states, the mother of Anna Maria Wagner (Johann Georg Schwald's wife) was Barbara Osswaldin. She was a daughter of Simon Osswald of Kaltenbach. Hans Jacob Wagner of Malsburg (spelled Mahlsburg) and Barbara Osswaldin were married on June 16, 1744, probably in Kaltenbach, since Malsburg has no church. Fred emphatically states that Johann Jakob Wagner was a farmer, not a Nagler. I wonder where he picked up this information. On the marriage record of Johann George Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner in 1764, it very clearly states Hans Jacob Wagner was a Nagler. I found no mention that he was a farmer.
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Person ID |
I07274 |
1. Schwald - WA-NY-OR-TX |
Last Modified |
19 Oct 2008 |
Father |
OSSWALD, Simon, b. 25 Apr 1697, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 19 Sep 1770, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 73 years) |
Mother |
WAGNER, Anna, b. 7 Mar 1700, Sallneck, Germany d. 15 Jul 1759, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 59 years) |
Family ID |
F2554 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
WAGNER, Johann "Hans" Jacob, b. 11 Oct 1717, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 31 Jul 1802, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany (Age 84 years) |
Marriage |
16 Jun 1744 |
Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany |
Children |
+ | 1. WAGNER, Anna Maria, b. 27 Feb 1745, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany d. 31 Oct 1799, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany (Age 54 years) |
| 2. WAGNER, Johannes, b. 21 Feb 1746 d. 1748 (Age 1 year) |
| 3. WAGNER, Verena, b. 9 Apr 1747 d. 1775 (Age 27 years) |
| 4. WAGNER, Barbara, b. 28 Feb 1749 d. 1750 (Age 0 years) |
| 5. WAGNER, Simon, b. 18 Sep 1750 d. 1795 (Age 44 years) |
| 6. WAGNER, Johann Jacob, b. 4 Feb 1753 d. 1825 (Age 71 years) |
| 7. WAGNER, Kunigunde, b. 16 Sep 1758 d. 1775 (Age 16 years) |
| 8. WAGNER, Friedrich, b. 27 Dec 1766 d. 1838 (Age 71 years) |
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Family ID |
F0409 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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