Generation: 1
1. | Living Living married OSSWALD, C. (son of OSSWALD, Christian and BERTSCHIN, Verena) [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 2. OSSWALD, Verena was born 1665, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 18 Feb 1737, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 3. OSSWALD, Eva was born 1666.
- 4. OSSWALD, Oswald was born 1667; died 1718.
- 5. OSSWALD, Christian was born 1669.
- 6. OSSWALD, Claus was born 1671, Wambach, Germany; died 21 May 1698, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
- 7. OSSWALD, Michael was born 1672.
- 8. OSSWALD, Martin was born 1674; died 1726.
- 9. OSSWALD, Friederich was born 1677; died 1713.
- 10. OSSWALD, Barbara was born 1679; died 1731.
- 11. OSSWALD, Andreas was born 1681; died 1715.
- 12. OSSWALD, Eva was born 1684; died 1724.
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Generation: 2
2. | OSSWALD, Verena (1.Living1) was born 1665, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 18 Feb 1737, Luetschenbach, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Gisin, (Giessin), Fritz, <2215>
* : 1660 Demberguvw + : 1709 Luetschenba
V: M:
oo: 1) 3 Nov 1688 Vogelbach "556"
0 0 Osswald, Verena, <2216>
* : 1665 Wiesuvw + : 18 Feb 1737 Luetschenba
V: Osswald Claus M: Huber Barba
KINDER:
1. Gisin, Catharina, * 1690+ 1750 <2217>
2. Gisin, Barbara, * 1691+ 1772 <87>
3. Gisin, Maria, * 1692+ 1763 <2218>
4. Gisin, Verena, * 1694+ 1778 <2219>
5. Gisin, Anna, * 1698+ 1739 <2220>
6. Gisin, Johannes, * 1701+ <2221>
7. Gisin, Fritz, Geschworener * 1704+ 1773 <2222>
8. Gisin, Nicolaus, * 1707+ <2223>
9. Gisin, Margaretha, * 1709+ <2224>
Verena married GISIN, Fritz (Giessin) 3 Nov 1688, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Fritz was born 1660, Demberg, Germany; died 1709, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 13. GISIN, Catharina was born 10 Nov 1690, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 8 Jun 1750, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 14. GISIN, Barbara was born Sep 1691, Wambach, Germany; died 16 Jun 1772, Wambach, Germany.
- 15. GISIN, Maria was born 1692; died 1763.
- 16. GISIN, Verena was born 1694; died 1778.
- 17. GISIN, Anna was born 1698; died 1739.
- 18. GISIN, Johannes was born 1701.
- 19. GISIN, Fritz was born 18 Sep 1704, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 11 Oct 1773, Lausbuehl, Feldberg, Muellheim, Germany.
- 20. GISIN, Nicolaus was born 1707.
- 21. GISIN, Margaretha was born 1709.
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6. | OSSWALD, Claus (1.Living1) was born 1671, Wambach, Germany; died 21 May 1698, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. Other Events:
- Occupation: St. Blaesischer Meyer/Tithe collector
- Occupation: Of veg/fruit for St. Blasien Monastery Blk Fst
Notes:
Occupation...St. Blaesischer Meyer: Tithe collector of food from village for St. Blasen Monastery located in the Black Forest.
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Osswald, Claus, St. Blaesischer Meyer <5363>
* : 1671 Wambachuvw + : 21 Mai 1698 Kaltenba
V: Osswald, Claus M: Huber, Barbara
gleiche Vorfahren siehe Seite:
oo: 1) 1695 "1384"
0 0 Schuster, Ursula, St. Blaesische Meyerin <542
* : 30 Mar 1670 + : 7 Feb 1723 Kaltenba
V: Schuster Simon M: Broedlin Ursula
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 2) 12 Nov 1699 Rissmann, Michael <6258> "1597"
KINDER:
1. Osswald, Simon, Geschworener, St. Blaes. Meyer * 1697+ 1770 <5428>
Per Fred Wehrle's 3~12.wps file:
0 0 Osswald, Claus, St. Blaesischer Meyer <5363>
* : 1671 Wambachuvw + : 21 Mai 1698 Kaltenba
V: Osswald, Claus M: Huber, Barba
oo: 1) 1695 ?1384?
0 0 Schuster, Ursula, St. Blaesische Meyerin <542
* : 30 Mar 1670 + : 7 Feb 1723 Kaltenba
V: Schuster Simon M: Broedlin, Ursu
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 2) 12 Nov 1699 Rissmann, Michael <6258> ?1597?
HISTORIE DER EHEFRAU:
10xGev.08.12.1685-16.05.1719;
KINDER:
1. Osswald, Simon, Geschworener, St. Blaes. M * 25 Apr 1697+ 1770 <5428>
Claus married SCHUSTER, Ursula 1695. Ursula (daughter of SCHUSTER, Simon and BROEDLIN, Ursula) was born 30 Mar 1670; died 7 Feb 1723, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 22. OSSWALD, Simon was born 25 Apr 1697, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 19 Sep 1770, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
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8. | OSSWALD, Martin (1.Living1) was born 1674; died 1726. Notes:
???? Same person as Martin Osswald married to Catharina Strubol????
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Generation: 3
13. | GISIN, Catharina (2.Verena2, 1.Living1) was born 10 Nov 1690, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 8 Jun 1750, Luetschenbach, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Roser, Georg, <6363>
* : 17 Apr 1686 Schwand + : 1714 Luetschenba
V: M:
oo: 1) 5 Mai 1711 Marzell ?1623?
0 0 Gisin, Catharina, <2217>
* : 10 Nov 1690 Luetschenbach + : 8 Jun 1750 Luetschenba
V: Gisin Fritz M: Osswald Verena
gleiche Vorfahren siehe Seite: 1
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 2) 5 Feb 1715 Wehrlin, Hans Jacob <8249> ?2130?
KINDER:
1. Roser, Barbara, * 1712+ 1769 <3262>
2. Roser, Verena, * 1713+ <1204>
Catharina married ROSER, Georg 5 May 1711, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Georg was born 17 Apr 1686, Schwand, Germany; died 1714, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 23. ROSER, Barbara was born 1 Feb 1712, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 6 Nov 1769, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 24. ROSER, Verena was born 1713.
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Catharina married WEHRLIN, Hans Jacob 5 Feb 1715. Hans (son of WEHRLIN, Matthias (Werle Werlin) and OSSWALD, Verena) was born 1687; died 1747. [Group Sheet]
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14. | GISIN, Barbara (2.Verena2, 1.Living1) was born Sep 1691, Wambach, Germany; died 16 Jun 1772, Wambach, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Braendlin, (Braendle), Hans, <864>
* : 3 Feb 1667 Wies + : 1 Aug 1725 Wamba
V: M:
oo: 1) 9 Mar 1717 Kaltenbach "223"
0 0 Gisin, Barbara, <87>
* : Sep 1691 Wambach + : 16 Jun 1772 Wamba
V: Gisin Fritz M: Osswald Verena
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 1) 1 Jul 1732 Andres, Laurentius <86> "19"
KINDER:
1. Braendlin, Verena, * 1718+ 1789 <866>
2. Braendlin, Maria, * 1720+ 1735 <867>
3. Braendlin, Barbara, * 1724+ <868>
Barbara married BRAENDLIN, Hans (Braendle) 9 Mar 1717, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. Hans was born 3 Feb 1667, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 1 Aug 1725, Wambach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 25. BRAENDLIN, Verena was born 20 Jan 1718, Wambach, Germany; died 9 Jan 1789, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- 26. BRAENDLIN, Maria was born 1720, Wambach, Germany; died 1735.
- 27. BRAENDLIN, Barbara was born 1724.
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Barbara married Living [Group Sheet]
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19. | GISIN, Fritz (2.Verena2, 1.Living1) was born 18 Sep 1704, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 11 Oct 1773, Lausbuehl, Feldberg, Muellheim, Germany. Other Events:
- Occupation: Geschworener/Juror
Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Gisin, Fritz, Geschworener <2222>
* : 18 Sep 1704 Luetschenbach + : 11 Okt 1773 Lausbue
V: Gisin, Fritz M: Osswald, Vere
oo: 1) 10 Feb 1733 Feuerbach ?565?
0 0 Graf, Maria, <2271>
* : 1706 Feuerbachuvw + : 30 Sep 1771 Lausbue
V: Graf Zacharias M: Dreher Margaret
KINDER:
1. Gisin, Margaretha, * 1735+ 1762 <2272>
2. Gisin, Anna, * 1738+ 1822 <2273>
3. Gisin, Johann Jacob, * 1740+ 1790 <2274>
4. Gisin, Maria, * 1743+ 1758 <2275>
5. Gisin, Verena, * 1747+ 1753 <2276>
Fritz married GRAF, Maria 10 Feb 1733, Feuerbach, Muellheim, Baden, Germany . Maria (daughter of GRAF, Zacharias and DREHER, Margaretha) was born 1706, Feuerbach, Muellheim, Baden, Germany ; died 30 Sep 1771, Lausbuehl, Feldberg, Muellheim, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 28. GISIN, Margaretha was born 1735; died 1762.
- 29. GISIN, Anna (Giesin) was born 18 Mar 1738, Lausbuehl, Feldberg, Muellheim, Germany; died 6 Mar 1822, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 30. GISIN, Johann Jacob was born 1740; died 1790.
- 31. GISIN, Maria was born 1743; died 1758.
- 32. GISIN, Verena was born 1747; died 1753.
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22. | OSSWALD, Simon (6.Claus2, 1.Living1) was born 25 Apr 1697, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 19 Sep 1770, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. Other Events:
- Occupation: Geschworener/Juror
- Occupation: St. Blaes. Meyer/tithed food collector
Notes:
Occupation...St. Blaes. Meyer: Tithe collector of food from village for St. Blasen Monastery located in the Black Forest.
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Osswald, Simon, Geschworener, St. Blaes. Meyer <5428>
* : 25 Apr 1697 Kaltenbach + : 19 Sep 1770 Kaltenba
V: Osswald, Claus M: Schuster, Ursu
oo: 1) 20 Apr 1723 Vogtei Vogelbach "1396"
0 0 Wagner, Anna, <5461>
* : 7 Mar 1700 Sallneck + : 15 Jul 1759 Kaltenba
V: M:
KINDER:
1. Osswald, Maria, * 1724+ 1806 <2915>
2. Osswald, Barbara, * 1725+ 1785 <5462>
3. Osswald, Simon, * 1726+ 1782 <5463>
4. Osswald, Michael, * 1728+ 1801 <5464>
5. Osswald, Nicolaus, * 1730+ 1784 <2408>
6. Osswald, Anna, * 1733+ 1762 <5465>
7. Osswald, Regina, * 1735+ 1796 <4430>
8. Osswald, Johann Jacob, * 1737+ 1799 <5466>
9. Osswald, Bartholomaeus, * 1741+ 1803 <5467>
10. Osswald, Margaretha, * 1745+ 1800 <5468>
Per Fred Wehrle's 3~12.wps file:
0 0 Osswald, Simon, Geschworener, St. Blaes. Meyer <5428>
* : 25 Apr 1697 Kaltenbach + : 19 Sep 1770 Kaltenba
V: Osswald, Claus M: Schuster, Ursu
oo: 1) 20 Apr 1723 Vogtei Vogelbach ?1396?
0 0 Wagner, Anna, <5461>
* : 7 Mar 1700 Sallneck + : 15 Jul 1759 Kaltenba
V: M:
HISTORIE DES EHEMANNS:
17xGev.10.01.1720-25.04.1736; (ab 01.01.1737 St. Blaesischer Meyer)
HISTORIE DER EHEFRAU:
13xGev.18.06.1723-16.06.1737;
KINDER:
1. Osswald, Maria, * 1724+ 1806 <2915>
2. Osswald, Barbara, * 1725+ 1785 <5462>
3. Osswald, Simon, * 1726+ 1782 <5463>
4. Osswald, Michael, * 1728+ 1801 <5464>
5. Osswald, Nicolaus, * 1730+ 1784 <2408>
6. Osswald, Anna, * 1733+ 1762 <5465>
7. Osswald, Regina, * 1735+ 1796 <4430>
8. Osswald, Johann Jacob, * 1737+ 1799 <5466>
9. Osswald, Bartholomaeus, * 12 Nov 1741+ 1803 <5467>
10. Osswald, Margaretha, * 4 Mai 1745+ 1800 <5468>
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet Schwald"
Subject: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:01:04 -0500
As Fred Wehrle states, the mother of Anna Maria Wagner (Johann Georg Schwald's wife) was Barbara Osswaldin. She was a daughter of Simon Osswald of Kaltenbach. Hans Jacob Wagner of Malsburg (spelled Mahlsburg) and Barbara Osswaldin were married on June 16, 1744, probably in Kaltenbach, since Malsburg has no church. Fred emphatically states that Johann Jakob Wagner was a farmer, not a Nagler. I wonder where he picked up this information. On the marriage record of Johann George Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner in 1764, it very clearly states Hans Jacob Wagner was a Nagler. I found no mention that he was a farmer.
Simon married WAGNER, Anna 20 Apr 1723, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Anna was born 7 Mar 1700, Sallneck, Germany; died 15 Jul 1759, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 33. OSSWALD, Maria was born 1724, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1806.
- 34. OSSWALD, Barbara was born 1725, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 5 Mar 1785, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany.
- 35. OSSWALD, Simon was born 1726, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1782.
- 36. OSSWALD, Michael was born 1728, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1801.
- 37. OSSWALD, Nicolaus was born 1730, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1784.
- 38. OSSWALD, Anna was born 1733, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 24 Apr 1762, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- 39. OSSWALD, Regina was born 1735, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1796.
- 40. OSSWALD, Johann Jacob was born 1737, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1799.
- 41. OSSWALD, Bartholomaeus was born 12 Nov 1741, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1803.
- 42. OSSWALD, Margaretha was born 4 May 1745, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 1800.
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Generation: 4
23. | ROSER, Barbara (13.Catharina3, 2.Verena2, 1.Living1) was born 1 Feb 1712, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 6 Nov 1769, Luetschenbach, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Homberger, Johannes, Vogt <3252>
* : 28 Nov 1705 Malsburg + : 5 Apr 1769 Luetschenba
V: Homberger, Martin M: Heitz, An
oo: 1) 8 Mar 1729 Vogtei Vogelbach ?821?
0 0 Roser, Barbara, <3262>
* : 1 Feb 1712 Luetschenbach + : 6 Nov 1769 Luetschenba
V: Roser Georg M: Gisin Cathari
KINDER:
1. Homberger, Martin, * 1730+ 1766 <3263>
2. Homberger, Catharina, * 1732+ 1757 <3264>
3. Homberger, Johannes, * 1735+ 1789 <3265>
4. Homberger, Johann Jacob, Waidgesell * 1738+ 1784 <3266>
5. Homberger, Mathias, * 1743+ 1756 <3267>
6. Homberger, Barbara, * 1751+ 1757 <3268>
Barbara married HOMBERGER, Johannes 8 Mar 1729, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Johannes (son of HOMBERGER, Martin and HEITZ, Anna) was born 28 Nov 1705, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 5 Apr 1769, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 43. HOMBERGER, Martin was born 1730; died 1766.
- 44. HOMBERGER, Catharina was born 1732; died 1757.
- 45. HOMBERGER, Johannes was born 25 Jul 1735, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 20 Feb 1789, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 46. HOMBERGER, Johann Jacob was born 1738; died 1784.
- 47. HOMBERGER, Mathias was born 1743; died 1756.
- 48. HOMBERGER, Barbara was born 1751; died 1757.
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25. | BRAENDLIN, Verena (14.Barbara3, 2.Verena2, 1.Living1) was born 20 Jan 1718, Wambach, Germany; died 9 Jan 1789, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Verena married SCHWEINLIN, Matthias 17 Jan 1741, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Matthias (son of SCHWEINLIN, Matthias and RUF, Margaretha (Ruff)) was born 28 Feb 1713, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 13 Mar 1789, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 49. SCHWEINLIN, Mathias was born 1741; died 1766.
- 50. SCHWEINLIN, Johannes was born 25 Nov 1743, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 4 Jan 1814, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 51. SCHWEINLIN, Barbara was born 1747; died 1804.
- 52. SCHWEINLIN, Verena was born 1748; died 1749.
- 53. SCHWEINLIN, Michael was born 1750; died 1756.
- 54. SCHWEINLIN, Margaretha was born 1753; died 1825.
- 55. SCHWEINLIN, Friedrich was born 1755; died 1814.
- 56. SCHWEINLIN, Rosina was born 1759; died 1814.
- 57. SCHWEINLIN, Verena was born 1762.
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29. | GISIN, Anna (Giesin) (19.Fritz3, 2.Verena2, 1.Living1) was born 18 Mar 1738, Lausbuehl, Feldberg, Muellheim, Germany; died 6 Mar 1822, Luetschenbach, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Wehrlin, Matthias, Bauer <8265>
* : 18 Sep 1730 Luetschenbach + : 9 Okt 1817 Luetschenba
V: Wehrlin, Michael M: Vollmer, Vere
oo: 1) 26 Feb 1760 Vogelbach "2135"
0 0 Gisin, Anna, <2273>
* : 18 Mar 1738 Lausbuehl + : 6 Mar 1822 Luetschenba
V: Gisin Fritz M: Graf Mar
KINDER:
1. Wehrlin, Michael, Weidgeselle * 1761+ 1836 <8280>
2. Wehrlin, Fritz, * 1762+ 1844 <8281>
3. Wehrlin, Johann Jacob, * 1765+ 1769 <8283>
4. Wehrlin, Matthias, * 1767+ 1842 <8282>
5. Wehrlin, Johann Jacob, * 1769+ 1841 <8284>
6. Wehrlin, Anna Maria, * 1771+ 1772 <8285>
7. Wehrlin, Catharina, * 1775+ 1857 <3323>
8. Wehrlin, Anna Maria, * 1775+ 1854 <4514>
9. Wehrlin, Verena, * 1777+ 1778 <8286>
10. Wehrlin, Johann Georg, * 1781+ 1853 <8287>
From: Wehrle)
To: Janet
Subject: Re: Kiefer Bild
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:02:41 +0200
Hallo Janet,
vielen herzlichen Dank. Leider kann ich die Dateien mit den Bildern nic
oeffnen. Schade!
Hier meine Wehrle Vorfahren Linie: (in Kurzform)
Wehrle, Fred oo 21.06.1980 Schloss Buergeln Groetz, Saskia
* 28.6.1955 (4 children) 26.11.1961
Wehrle, Werner oo 25.04.1953 Vogelbach Pick, Inge
*28.06.1928 26.01.1931
Wehrle, Ernst oo 27.03.1924 Vogelbach Homberger, Anna
*04.07.1893 * 28.08.191903
Wehrle, Joh. Jakob oo 31.05.1877 Vogelbach Schleith, Anna Katharina
* 20.11.1846 * 07.10.1856
Wehrle, Joh. Jakob oo 10.09.1846 Vogelbach Schleith, Maria Katharina
* 07.11.1818 * 10.12.1824
Wehrle, Joh. Georg oo 05.09.1822 Vogelbach Osswald, Kunigunde
* 07.05.1781 * 13.03.1797
Wehrlin, Matthias oo 26.02.1760 Vogelbach Giesin, Anna
* 18.09.1730 * 18.03.1738
Wehrlin, Michael oo 18.11.1721 Vogelbach Vollmer, Verena
* 24.12.1698 * 18.07.1701
Wehrlin, Matthias oo 03.09.1693 Vogelbach Osswald, Verena
* 21.10.1658 * 16.09.1660
Wehrlin, Johannes oo vor 1652 Vogelbach Boesch, Maria
* 01.09.1611 * um 1618
Wehrlin, Lentz oo 28.02.1603 Marzell Leisinger, Maria
* um 1570 * 1569
Wehrlin, Hans oo vor 1570 Kandern NN
+ 06.01.1595
Mit freundlichen Gruessen
Fred
Anna married WEHRLIN, Matthias 26 Feb 1760, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Matthias (son of WEHRLIN, Michael (Werle Woerlin) and VOLLMER, Verena) was born 18 Sep 1730, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 9 Oct 1817, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 58. WEHRLIN, Michael was born 1 Mar 1761, Luetschenbach, Germany; died 26 May 1836, Luetschenbach, Germany.
- 59. WEHRLIN, Fritz was born 1762; died 1844.
- 60. WEHRLIN, Johann Jacob was born 1765; died 1769.
- 61. WEHRLIN, Matthias was born 1767; died 1842.
- 62. WEHRLIN, Johann Jacob was born 1769; died 1841.
- 63. WEHRLIN, Anna Maria was born 1771; died 1772.
- 64. WEHRLIN, Catharina was born 1775; died 1857.
- 65. WEHRLIN, Anna Maria was born 1775; died 1854.
- 66. WEHRLIN, Verena was born 1777; died 1778.
- 67. WEHRLE, Johann Georg was born 7 May 1781; died 1853.
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34. | OSSWALD, Barbara (22.Simon3, 6.Claus2, 1.Living1) was born 1725, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 5 Mar 1785, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. Notes:
Per Rod's Website:
(Anna Maria Wagner (daughter of Hans Jacob Wagner and Anna Barbara Lensin)14. She married Johann "Hans" Georg Schwald on 27 September 1768 in Demberg, Germany14,
son of Johann Georg Schwald and Maria Lenzin.
More About Anna Maria Wagner and Johann "Hans" Georg Schwald:
Marriage: 27 September 1768, Demberg, Germany.
Children of Anna Maria Wagner and Johann "Hans" Georg Schwald are:
Johann Georg Schwald, b. 30 June 1769, Fischenberg, Germany.
Johann Jacob Schwald, b. 16 June 1770, Fischenberg, Germany.
+Friedrich "Fritz or Friz" Schwald, b. 13 September 1772, Fischenberg, Germany, d. 19 December 1839.)
Hans Jacob Wagner. He married Anna Barbara Lensin.
Notes for Hans Jacob Wagner:
Occupation was a Nagler (a Blacksmith who made nails)
Children of Hans Jacob Wagner and Anna Barbara Lensin are:
+Anna Maria Wagner
Corrected:
From: Wehrle
To: Janet
Cc: H.Trurnit
Subject: Re: Fwd: Our Relationship to Dieter
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet
Subject: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:01:04 -0500
As Fred Wehrle states, the mother of Anna Maria Wagner (Johann Georg Schwald's wife) was Barbara Osswaldin. She was a daughter of Simon Osswald of Kaltenbach. Hans Jacob Wagner of Malsburg (spelled Mahlsburg) and Barbara Osswaldin were married on June 16, 1744, probably in Kaltenbach, since Malsburg has no church. Fred emphatically states that Johann Jakob Wagner was a farmer, not a Nagler. I wonder where he picked up this information. On the marriage record of Johann George Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner in 1764, it very clearly states Hans Jacob Wagner was a Nagler. I found no mention that he was a farmer.
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:42:03 +0200
falsch: Johann Jakob Wagner oo Anna Barbara Lensin
richtig: Johann Jakob Wagner oo 16.06.1744 Vogelbach Barbara Osswald !!
er war nicht Nagler, sondern Bauer in Malsburg und Vogt der Vogt
Vogelbach
Per Fred Wehrle's list 3~12.wps
0 0 Wagner, Johann Jacob, Vogt <7951>
* : 11 Okt 1717 Malsburg + : 31 Jul 1802 Malsbu
V: Wagner, Johannes M: Hafner, Vere
oo: 1) 16 Jun 1744 Vogelbach ?2059?
0 0 Osswald, Barbara, <546
* : 1725 Kaltenbachuvw + : 5 Mar 1785 Malsbu
V: Osswald Simon M: Wagner, An
KINDER:
1. Wagner, Anna Maria, * 27 Feb 1745+ 1799 <7989>
2. Wagner, Johannes, * 21 Feb 1746+ 1748 <7990>
3. Wagner, Verena, * 9 Apr 1747+ 1775 <7991>
4. Wagner, Barbara, * 28 Feb 1749+ 1750 <7992>
5. Wagner, Simon, * 18 Sep 1750+ 1795 <7993>
6. Wagner, Johann Jacob, Vogt * 4 Feb 1753+ 1825 <7994>
7. Wagner, Kunigunde, * 16 Sep 1758+ 1775 <7995>
8. Wagner, Friedrich, Gerichter * 27 Dez 1766+ 1838 <7996>
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet"
Subject: Re: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 18:59:26 -0500
It may well be that Hans Jacob and Barbara were married in Vogelbach, but the record of their marriage does not so state. Both Vogelbach and Kaltenbach have churches, and, since Hans Jacob was from Kaltenbach, I felt that the odds favored the Kaltenbach church. Keep in mind that the little church in Vogelbach kept the vital records of both churches, and it may well be that Fred is confusing the place of recording with the place where the ceremony was performed. But surely, Fred must be well familiar with the fact that the Vogelbach church was the custodian of the records for both churches.
Neither does the marriage record reveal that Hans Jacob was a Vogt, which makes me wonder all the more what set of records Fred is working with.
A Vogt is somewhat like a Mayor. A Vogtei is something like an administrative office. The little village of Vogelbach had a stature out of proportion to its size. In addition to the Vogelbach and Kaltenbach churches, Vogelbach was the custodian of the records also for the Marzell church until the latter part of the 18th century, when Marzell started keeping its own records. I have a theory for the elevated position of Vogelbach. The Sausenburg Casthe is across a valley from Vogelbach and, in fact, the ruins can be seen from Vogelbach to this day. I believe that, because of its proximity to the castle, it was assigned the Vogtei centuries ago and, with it, the responibility for keeping the vital records.
From: "dave gudeman"
To: "Janet
Subject: Anna Maria Wagner
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 06:01:04 -0500
As Fred Wehrle states, the mother of Anna Maria Wagner (Johann Georg Schwald's wife) was Barbara Osswaldin. She was a daughter of Simon Osswald of Kaltenbach. Hans Jacob Wagner of Malsburg (spelled Mahlsburg) and Barbara Osswaldin were married on June 16, 1744, probably in Kaltenbach, since Malsburg has no church. Fred emphatically states that Johann Jakob Wagner was a farmer, not a Nagler. I wonder where he picked up this information. On the marriage record of Johann George Schwald and Anna Maria Wagner in 1764, it very clearly states Hans Jacob Wagner was a Nagler. I found no mention that he was a farmer.
Barbara married WAGNER, Johann "Hans" Jacob 16 Jun 1744, Vogelbach, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Johann (son of WAGNER, Johannes and HAFNER, Verena) was born 11 Oct 1717, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 31 Jul 1802, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 68. WAGNER, Anna Maria was born 27 Feb 1745, Malsburg, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 31 Oct 1799, Wies, Loerrach, Baden, Germany.
- 69. WAGNER, Johannes was born 21 Feb 1746; died 1748.
- 70. WAGNER, Verena was born 9 Apr 1747; died 1775.
- 71. WAGNER, Barbara was born 28 Feb 1749; died 1750.
- 72. WAGNER, Simon was born 18 Sep 1750; died 1795.
- 73. WAGNER, Johann Jacob was born 4 Feb 1753; died 1825.
- 74. WAGNER, Kunigunde was born 16 Sep 1758; died 1775.
- 75. WAGNER, Friedrich was born 27 Dec 1766; died 1838.
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38. | OSSWALD, Anna (22.Simon3, 6.Claus2, 1.Living1) was born 1733, Kaltenbach, Baden, Germany; died 24 Apr 1762, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Notes:
Per Fred Wehrle's notes:
0 0 Schultheiss, Fritz, Zimmermann <7150>
* : 1729 Marzelluvw + : 25 Jun 1798 Luetschenba
V: Schultheiss, Matthias M: Kiefer, Magdale
WEITERE EHEN:
oo: 2) 7 Mai 1765 Wehrlin, Barbara <7174> ?1846?
oo: 1) 13 Nov 1753 Marzell ?1845?
0 0 Osswald, Anna, <5465>
* : 1733 Kaltenbachuvw + : 24 Apr 1762 Marze
V: Osswald Simon M: Wagner An
KINDER:
1. Schultheiss, Anna, * 1755+ 1812 <7173>
Anna married SCHULTHEISS, Fritz 13 Nov 1753, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany. Fritz (son of SCHULTHEISS, Matthias and KIEFER, Magdalena) was born 1729, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 25 Jun 1798, Luetschenbach, Germany. [Group Sheet]
Children:
- 76. SCHULTHEISS, Anna was born 1 May 1755, Marzell, Loerrach, Baden, Germany; died 30 Mar 1812, Luetschenbach, Germany.
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